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1 hour ago, Flowersun said:

Hi Behold...I did not recieve my faith by hearing words that are found in the bible....he testified supernaturally  to my spirit,that he was God...,,no one knows how God saves people,his ways are not our ways....

In fact because of my supernatural saving...without a bible....I find it very hard to understand how anyone can be saved by reading a bible....but again !God's saving is a mystery.....

i actually felt and knew the Holy Spirit was manifesting himself into my spirit..because he testified his spirit to my spirit....making himself known to me...

 

i know what i received and I will never back down or deny that I recieved the Holy Spirit into my heart...it was supernatural,from God...given to me 28 yrs ago...but I can remember it,like it were yesterday.

 

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I did not recieve my faith by hearing words that are found in the bible....he testified supernaturally  to my spirit,that he was God

gnosticism is defined as a spiritual enlightenment apart from God's Word a higher communication of spirit only... 
 

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no one knows how God saves people,his ways are not our ways....

Then you make this statement which is in direct denial of The Gospel presented in God's Word... God has clearly outlined salvation according to His Word

 

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In fact because of my supernatural saving...without a bible....I find it very hard to understand how anyone can be saved by reading a bible

clearly you are elevating you spiritual experience over the written Word...

 

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i actually felt and knew the Holy Spirit was manifesting himself into my spirit..because he testified his spirit to my spirit....making himself known to me...

Here you are claiming that you by feeling and your own knowledge that it was God's Spirit that came to you because that was what the spirit said...

 

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i know what i received and I will never back down or deny that I recieved the Holy Spirit into my heart...it was supernatural,from God...given to me 28 yrs ago...but I can remember it,like it were yesterday.

the seal of truth is your experience ...

Now what have I taken out of context here?


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34 minutes ago, enoob57 said:

gnosticism is defined as a spiritual enlightenment apart from God's Word a higher communication of spirit only... 
 

 

Gnostics were Jews,  "jewish mystics".


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4 hours ago, Flowersun said:

i know what i received and I will never back down or deny that I recieved the Holy Spirit into my heart...it was supernatural,from God...given to me 28 yrs ago...but I can remember it,like it were yesterday.

Not only do we remember that day like it was yesterday precious, ...it turned our life upside down, ...actually, ....... right side up!

We woke up the next morning a completely different person, ...we know, for the first time in our lives, saw the world, no longer as we saw it before, ...but through the "eyes" of the Holy Spirit living inside of us.

We had this"knowledge" that we couldn't continue living like we had been before that day, ...we "felt" so, so, ........clean!

You keep on shouting your testimony Beloved, ...there are many Saints in Heaven that were saved during the last five millenniums that not only didn't even have a Bible "to" read, ...they didn't know "how" to read!

The largest revival today on the planet are Muslims coming to Jesus through Him appearing to them in their dreams, ...they certainly didn't have a "Bible" to read...

Lord bless

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@enoob57 Friend, could you please tell us what Bible Adam and Eve read, ...you do believe thy are saved?

How about Abel, or Abraham, Issac or Jacob, ...what books of the "Bible" were written for them to read, believe and be saved?

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5 minutes ago, Flowersun said:

WOW!!!....I could have written this myself bro...Amen...when i received the Holy Spirit....I was on fire.....isn't the Lord amazing..JPT....he is doing an amazing work in my life at the moment...my words can't express watching my Father at work....in my life..Praise His Holy Name!......JPT...when you post,you bring life into my heart....you are such a blessing!. 

There you have said it, ...watching my Father at work....in my life!

Sad and unfortunately, ...there are many of God's children that are watching "themselves" working in their lives, ...that's the difference between what the Holy Spirit calls His child carnal, walking after their fleshly knowledge and His children that have given to Him the right and the authority to sit on the Throne of their hearts and allow Him to rule, govern and direct their lives.

Lord bless

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10 hours ago, JustPassingThru said:

@enoob57 Friend, could you please tell us what Bible Adam and Eve read, ...you do believe thy are saved?

How about Abel, or Abraham, Issac or Jacob, ...what books of the "Bible" were written for them to read, believe and be saved?

Lord bless

 

Were not in the garden were in the NT era of the Church... nor are we in the time of the patriarchs nor the time of law... we live according to the time we are and the Bible is very clear on this NT Church with the completed Scripture and The Holy Spirit directing us from it's completeness....
 

2 Tim 3:15-17

15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
KJV
 


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12 hours ago, enoob57 said:

Were not in the garden were in the NT era of the Church... nor are we in the time of the patriarchs nor the time of law... we live according to the time we are and the Bible is very clear on this NT Church with the completed Scripture and The Holy Spirit directing us from it's completeness....
 

My Bible tells me, ...Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow.

So, I'm curious, ...how do you explain Muslims being saved, ...born again that have never read a Bible?


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1 hour ago, JustPassingThru said:

My Bible tells me, ...Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow.

So, I'm curious, ...how do you explain Muslims being saved, ...born again that have never read a Bible?

This response has nothing to do with what you quoted me on... except for the same yesterday, today and tomorrow which is ludicrous with Scriptural reasoning! It appears that the cover all plaque on the back wall of your church has replaced a great deal of necessary studies to show one's self approved....

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On 4/21/2020 at 2:35 AM, enoob57 said:

Authority is key! You say 'i actually felt and knew' apart from God's Word thus making yourself the authority... however God says

Did you not say this?

So, ...how are the Muslims coming to Salvation in Jesus Christ who have never read the Bible.

If "authority" is the key, ...then "His" authority allows Himself to come to them in their dreams, ...no?


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On 4/21/2020 at 12:26 PM, JustPassingThru said:

Not only do we remember that day like it was yesterday precious, ...it turned our life upside down, ...actually, ....... right side up!

We woke up the next morning a completely different person, ...we know, for the first time in our lives, saw the world, no longer as we saw it before, ...but through the "eyes" of the Holy Spirit living inside of us.

We had this"knowledge" that we couldn't continue living like we had been before that day, ...we "felt" so, so, ........clean!

You keep on shouting your testimony Beloved, ...there are many Saints in Heaven that were saved during the last five millenniums that not only didn't even have a Bible "to" read, ...they didn't know "how" to read!

The largest revival today on the planet are Muslims coming to Jesus through Him appearing to them in their dreams, ...they certainly didn't have a "Bible" to read...

Lord bless

Most of the people who are born in Islamic families...they know quite a lot about Jesus....not only through the Koran but also from the media.

The have heard about how the western world speaks about Jesus....from various resources, and what they believe about Jesus Christ...

Perhaps without a bible, they have heard the word of God, about Jesus who is portrayed as a Savior, who died for the forgiveness of our sins...and the Holy Spirit gives the witness in their heart that it is truth about Jesus....

Those who have believed this way from hearing the word of truth about Jesus...they need to hear that they can be Saved by hearing the word of God...this is the word of faith that it is truth about Jesus....as it was in the old times....they may also have read the word of the Gospel about Jesus Christ through a letter from a friend...

 

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