The Mark of the Beast (what it really is explained)

[OneLight]

The beast of the earth, who preforms great signs, causes all to receive the mark.  Let's read what the passage says.

Revelation 13:16-17

He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Let's analyze what this passage is telling us.

1. causes all to take the mark
2. the mark is either on the right hand of forehead
3. it allows people to buy and sell
4. the mark is the name of the beast or the number of his name

I don't see any way to get around it being physical.  If you want a deeper study, here are three verses about the mark.

And ^G2532 he causeth ^G4160 all, ^G3956 both small ^G3398 and ^G2532 great, ^G3173 G2532 rich ^G4145 and ^G2532 poor, ^G4434 G2532 free ^G1658 and ^G2532 bond, ^G1401 to ^G2443 G846 receive ^G1325 a mark ^G5480 in ^G1909 their ^G846 right hand, ^G1188 G5495 or ^G2228 in ^G1909 their ^G846 foreheads: ^G3359

 

And ^G2532 that no ^G3363 man ^G5100 might ^G1410 buy ^G59 or ^G2228 sell, ^G4453 save he ^G1508 that had ^G2192 the mark, ^G5480 or ^G2228 the name ^G3686 of the beast, ^G2342 or ^G2228 the number ^G706 of his ^G846 name. ^G3686

 

Here ^G5602 is ^G2076 wisdom. ^G4678 Let him that hath ^G2192 understanding ^G3563 count ^G5585 the number ^G706 of the beast: ^G2342 for ^G1063 it is ^G2076 the number ^G706 of a man; ^G444 and ^G2532 his ^G846 number ^G706 is Six hundred threescore and six. ^G5516

 

Now, let's take another look at what the mark is.  The first is from blueletterbible.org

 

mark G5480 χάραγμα  charagma

1. a stamp, an imprinted mark

   1. of the mark stamped on the forehead or the right hand as the badge of the followers of the Antichrist

   2. the mark branded upon horses

2. thing carved, sculpture, graven work

   1. of idolatrous images

and from one more source - The Complete Word Study Dictionary

To engrave.  An engraving, something graven or sculptured, an impression, mark or symbol

1. An engraving or sculptured work such as images or idols (Acts 17:29)
2. A mark cut in or stamped on, a sign ("the mark if the beast" Rev, 13:16, 17; 14:9.11; 15:2; 16:2; 19:20; 20:4).

 

My question to those who do not believe it will be physical, how do you justify your theory with scripture?

Edited May 29, 2020 by OneLight
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[Diaste]

7 hours ago, OneLight said:

The beast of the earth, who preforms great signs, causes all to receive the mark.  Let's read what the passage says.

Revelation 13:16-17

He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Let's analyze what this passage is telling us.

1. causes all to take the mark
2. the mark is either on the right hand of forehead
3. it allows people to buy and sell
4. the mark is the name of the beast or the number of his name

I don't see any way to get around it being physical.  If you want a deeper study, here are three verses about the mark.

And ^G2532 he causeth ^G4160 all, ^G3956 both small ^G3398 and ^G2532 great, ^G3173 G2532 rich ^G4145 and ^G2532 poor, ^G4434 G2532 free ^G1658 and ^G2532 bond, ^G1401 to ^G2443 G846 receive ^G1325 a mark ^G5480 in ^G1909 their ^G846 right hand, ^G1188 G5495 or ^G2228 in ^G1909 their ^G846 foreheads: ^G3359

 

And ^G2532 that no ^G3363 man ^G5100 might ^G1410 buy ^G59 or ^G2228 sell, ^G4453 save he ^G1508 that had ^G2192 the mark, ^G5480 or ^G2228 the name ^G3686 of the beast, ^G2342 or ^G2228 the number ^G706 of his ^G846 name. ^G3686

 

Here ^G5602 is ^G2076 wisdom. ^G4678 Let him that hath ^G2192 understanding ^G3563 count ^G5585 the number ^G706 of the beast: ^G2342 for ^G1063 it is ^G2076 the number ^G706 of a man; ^G444 and ^G2532 his ^G846 number ^G706 is Six hundred threescore and six. ^G5516

 

Now, let's take another look at what the mark is.  The first is from blueletterbible.org

 

mark G5480 χάραγμα  charagma

1. a stamp, an imprinted mark

   1. of the mark stamped on the forehead or the right hand as the badge of the followers of the Antichrist

   2. the mark branded upon horses

2. thing carved, sculpture, graven work

   1. of idolatrous images

and from one more source - The Complete Word Study Dictionary

To engrave.  An engraving, something graven or sculptured, an impression, mark or symbol

1. An engraving or sculptured work such as images or idols (Acts 17:29)
2. A mark cut in or stamped on, a sign ("the mark if the beast" Rev, 13:16, 17; 14:9.11; 15:2; 16:2; 19:20; 20:4).

 

My question to those who do not believe it will be physical, how do you justify your theory with scripture?

Excellent treatment. There is no getting around the idea of a physical mark. Just to add to the idea of that physical mark is the way in which it is received by the individual:

" and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received (lambano) [his] mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; "

"lambánō (from the primitive root, lab-, meaning "actively lay hold of to take or receive," see NAS dictionary) – properly, to lay hold by aggressively (actively) accepting what is available (offered). 2983 /lambánō ("accept with initiative") emphasizes the volition (assertiveness) of the receiver."

And 5480, 'xaragma' also carries the idea of "a mark providing undeniable identification, like a symbol giving irrefutable connection between parties."

Surely receiving the mark is driven by spiritual wickedness and the desire of the flesh, but it's clearly an open show of loyalty in the form of some type of physical sign.

[The_Truth_Seeker]

On 5/29/2020 at 12:43 PM, OneLight said:

The beast of the earth, who preforms great signs, causes all to receive the mark.  Let's read what the passage says.

Revelation 13:16-17

He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Let's analyze what this passage is telling us.

1. causes all to take the mark
2. the mark is either on the right hand of forehead
3. it allows people to buy and sell
4. the mark is the name of the beast or the number of his name

I don't see any way to get around it being physical.  If you want a deeper study, here are three verses about the mark.

And ^G2532 he causeth ^G4160 all, ^G3956 both small ^G3398 and ^G2532 great, ^G3173 G2532 rich ^G4145 and ^G2532 poor, ^G4434 G2532 free ^G1658 and ^G2532 bond, ^G1401 to ^G2443 G846 receive ^G1325 a mark ^G5480 in ^G1909 their ^G846 right hand, ^G1188 G5495 or ^G2228 in ^G1909 their ^G846 foreheads: ^G3359

 

And ^G2532 that no ^G3363 man ^G5100 might ^G1410 buy ^G59 or ^G2228 sell, ^G4453 save he ^G1508 that had ^G2192 the mark, ^G5480 or ^G2228 the name ^G3686 of the beast, ^G2342 or ^G2228 the number ^G706 of his ^G846 name. ^G3686

 

Here ^G5602 is ^G2076 wisdom. ^G4678 Let him that hath ^G2192 understanding ^G3563 count ^G5585 the number ^G706 of the beast: ^G2342 for ^G1063 it is ^G2076 the number ^G706 of a man; ^G444 and ^G2532 his ^G846 number ^G706 is Six hundred threescore and six. ^G5516

 

Now, let's take another look at what the mark is.  The first is from blueletterbible.org

 

mark G5480 χάραγμα  charagma

1. a stamp, an imprinted mark

   1. of the mark stamped on the forehead or the right hand as the badge of the followers of the Antichrist

   2. the mark branded upon horses

2. thing carved, sculpture, graven work

   1. of idolatrous images

and from one more source - The Complete Word Study Dictionary

To engrave.  An engraving, something graven or sculptured, an impression, mark or symbol

1. An engraving or sculptured work such as images or idols (Acts 17:29)
2. A mark cut in or stamped on, a sign ("the mark if the beast" Rev, 13:16, 17; 14:9.11; 15:2; 16:2; 19:20; 20:4).

 

My question to those who do not believe it will be physical, how do you justify your theory with scripture?

Has to be something physical. I agree on that.

A further examination of the writings, when looking at the greek is to look at the words buy and sell.

Now looking at the greek, the word buy is G59 agorazo, this word can also mean to be in the market place. Market places (or shopping centres) would involve gathering of many people.

Now with the word sell, in the greek that is G4453 poleo and that can  also mean to barter. If you break it down, if people are selling, they are doing their job.

Look what happened with this COVID 19 and the global impacts. We seen countries gone into lockdown, and depending where one lives, your lucky if the retail shops that sell the essentials were open. So to some degree, depending on where one lives, depending on the type of job they were doing, they could not go into work, or unless for essential reasons, said person could not go out. 

What if a situation should arise that as a consequence of some kind of global disease outbreak, in order for people to do their jobs or step out of their homes to buy what they need, they need to have some kind of "evidence" to show they are not a threat to other people?  At the moment, as a result of COVID 19, depending on where a person lives it is mandatory for said person to have contact-tracing software from what I have researched.

At the end of the day, if a person is unable to buy or sell, unless they have some kind of mark or other idenitifying feature, said person would have to be in an environment where said individual is isolated or cut off from those who already have such a mark.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[iamlamad]

On 5/28/2020 at 9:43 PM, OneLight said:

The beast of the earth, who preforms great signs, causes all to receive the mark.  Let's read what the passage says.

Revelation 13:16-17

He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Let's analyze what this passage is telling us.

1. causes all to take the mark
2. the mark is either on the right hand of forehead
3. it allows people to buy and sell
4. the mark is the name of the beast or the number of his name

I don't see any way to get around it being physical.  If you want a deeper study, here are three verses about the mark.

And ^G2532 he causeth ^G4160 all, ^G3956 both small ^G3398 and ^G2532 great, ^G3173 G2532 rich ^G4145 and ^G2532 poor, ^G4434 G2532 free ^G1658 and ^G2532 bond, ^G1401 to ^G2443 G846 receive ^G1325 a mark ^G5480 in ^G1909 their ^G846 right hand, ^G1188 G5495 or ^G2228 in ^G1909 their ^G846 foreheads: ^G3359

 

And ^G2532 that no ^G3363 man ^G5100 might ^G1410 buy ^G59 or ^G2228 sell, ^G4453 save he ^G1508 that had ^G2192 the mark, ^G5480 or ^G2228 the name ^G3686 of the beast, ^G2342 or ^G2228 the number ^G706 of his ^G846 name. ^G3686

 

Here ^G5602 is ^G2076 wisdom. ^G4678 Let him that hath ^G2192 understanding ^G3563 count ^G5585 the number ^G706 of the beast: ^G2342 for ^G1063 it is ^G2076 the number ^G706 of a man; ^G444 and ^G2532 his ^G846 number ^G706 is Six hundred threescore and six. ^G5516

 

Now, let's take another look at what the mark is.  The first is from blueletterbible.org

 

mark G5480 χάραγμα  charagma

1. a stamp, an imprinted mark

   1. of the mark stamped on the forehead or the right hand as the badge of the followers of the Antichrist

   2. the mark branded upon horses

2. thing carved, sculpture, graven work

   1. of idolatrous images

and from one more source - The Complete Word Study Dictionary

To engrave.  An engraving, something graven or sculptured, an impression, mark or symbol

1. An engraving or sculptured work such as images or idols (Acts 17:29)
2. A mark cut in or stamped on, a sign ("the mark if the beast" Rev, 13:16, 17; 14:9.11; 15:2; 16:2; 19:20; 20:4).

 

My question to those who do not believe it will be physical, how do you justify your theory with scripture?

You ask a very good question. 

[iamlamad]

4 hours ago, The_Truth_Seeker said:

Has to be something physical. I agree on that.

A further examination of the writings, when looking at the greek is to look at the words buy and sell.

Now looking at the greek, the word buy is G59 agorazo, this word can also mean to be in the market place. Market places (or shopping centres) would involve gathering of many people.

Now with the word sell, in the greek that is G4453 poleo and that can  also mean to barter. If you break it down, if people are selling, they are doing their job.

Look what happened with this COVID 19 and the global impacts. We seen countries gone into lockdown, and depending where one lives, your lucky if the retail shops that sell the essentials were open. So to some degree, depending on where one lives, depending on the type of job they were doing, they could not go into work, or unless for essential reasons, said person could not go out. 

What if a situation should arise that as a consequence of some kind of global disease outbreak, in order for people to do their jobs or step out of their homes to buy what they need, they need to have some kind of "evidence" to show they are not a threat to other people?  At the moment, as a result of COVID 19, depending on where a person lives it is mandatory for said person to have contact-tracing software from what I have researched.

At the end of the day, if a person is unable to buy or sell, unless they have some kind of mark or other idenitifying feature, said person would have to be in an environment where said individual is isolated or cut off from those who already have such a mark.

OF COURSE people who won't take the mark will try to hid because they want to keep their head in its place on their shoulders. But There are two verses that say they will be overcome. I think it is in reference to these days that Jesus spoke of giving a drink of water to someone trying to hide will be like giving HIM a drink of water. Once the fresh water is turned to blood, no water anywhere to drink except that from the stores or someone who has already purchased. 

Will this be all over the world? WE don't know for sure, because John does not tell us. My guess is, it will be in most of the world.

[DeighAnn]

Could someone give me the Scripture that states it is "Visible" to the human eye?

Even the most ignorant of Christians know about "the mark of the beast".  How is it Satan will convince/deceive the world to get "engraved or stamped" with his mark seeing that he is coming to convince/deceive the world into believing he is really Christ returned and Christ doesn't require one?  


 

Edited June 4, 2020 by DeighAnn
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[Serving]

On 4/22/2020 at 6:29 PM, Eddy Crocker said:

On 4/22/2020 at 5:19 AM, Diaste said:

The definition of the mark itself is a willingness to identify and a personal receiving of the emblem of that identification. 

The word for 'mark' calls it a physical something of allegiance. 

 

We must remember to interpret the Bible according to how it was instituted in the Old Testament. Jesus said he came to fulfill. The question is what is he fulfilling. 
it also says he’s the author and finisher of our faith. He also says my word shall be established in the mouth of two or three witnesses.

Isaiah 8:20 

²⁰ To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them

The mark of the beast is not necessarily a physical mark. It was in Old Testament but in the new it’s using symbolic language based on Old Testament.

Look at Cain he was a  fruit of his parents disobedience of eating of the tree. Cain was simply manifesting this Mark of the beast which is the Adamic nature of his parents. 

Today is the same thing today. What nature are we manifesting? The first Adam or the second Adam which is Christ. Remember he died on the tree why one might ask?

The prophecy has to do with BUYING & SELLING.

The "mark" is merely the method to attain said means !! 

Remember, this "Mark" can only be RECEIVED by CHOICE, totally UNLIKE our already provided "Adamic nature" .. but I digress ..

Therefore, the question really is this :

What best describes this "Mark" that people will one day willingly RECEIVE?

a) Something that represents/gives access to "Adamic nature" (which human nature we ALREADY have) 

OR

b) Something that represents/gives access to buying & selling WITHIN a future economic SYSTEM (that is YET to come)?

See the problem with your argument?

(a) deals with a philosophical argument dealing with human nature which is totally UNRELATED to buying & selling.

(b) deals with some unknown format (cash? credit card? RFID chip? Tattoo? some other yet unknown tech?) that DOES has EVERYTHING to do with buying & selling.

Isn't the answer rather obvious now as to which path of inquiry we should be addressing? 

Surely NOT path (a).

Edited June 17, 2020 by Serving

[TheBlade]

Thanks but.. you didn't explain it at all. You said it does not make it true. See they will not be able to buy or sell unless they have the mark. Yet.. this really for me is mute. Well everyone but those written in the lambs book will WORSHIP the beast. See that has to happen first. Again.. kind of hard to buy and sell with out this mark. Again what you said is not in the word of God... about what the MARK of the beast is.

 

[Eddy Crocker]

6 hours ago, Serving said:

The prophecy has to do with BUYING & SELLING.

The "mark" is merely the method to attain said means !! 

Remember, this "Mark" can only be RECEIVED by CHOICE, totally UNLIKE our already provided "Adamic nature" .. but I digress ..

Therefore, the question really is this :

What best describes this "Mark" that people will one day willingly RECEIVE?

a) Something that represents/gives access to "Adamic nature" (which human nature we ALREADY have) 

OR

b) Something that represents/gives access to buying & selling WITHIN a future economic SYSTEM (that is YET to come)?

See the problem with your argument?

(a) deals with a philosophical argument dealing with human nature which is totally UNRELATED to buying & selling.

(b) deals with some unknown format (cash? credit card? RFID chip? Tattoo? some other yet unknown tech?) that DOES has EVERYTHING to do with buying & selling.

Isn't the answer rather obvious now as to which path of inquiry we should be addressing? 

Surely NOT path (a).

You have a choice whether or not to yield to the Adamic nature. So it’s a choice. That nature can influence us if we let it. The buying and selling is like what they were doing in the temple when Jesus threw over the money changers tables over. The religious leaders at that time were all buying and selling their doctrines and beliefs to others.
 

The church’s are selling their books and teaching tapes. What ideas do we try to buy or to try to sell to others? He  says thou shall not make my house a house of merchandise. It takes many acts of unrighteousness to corrupt the soul. It’s not just all of a sudden receiving an external mark.

If it were to happen this way, it would only be a manifestation of many acts of yielding to the the inward mark of the beast. Where does it talk about a computer chip in the Bible? 

[Diaste]

14 hours ago, Serving said:

The prophecy has to do with BUYING & SELLING.

The "mark" is merely the method to attain said means !! 

Remember, this "Mark" can only be RECEIVED by CHOICE, totally UNLIKE our already provided "Adamic nature" .. but I digress ..

Therefore, the question really is this :

What best describes this "Mark" that people will one day willingly RECEIVE?

a) Something that represents/gives access to "Adamic nature" (which human nature we ALREADY have) 

OR

b) Something that represents/gives access to buying & selling WITHIN a future economic SYSTEM (that is YET to come)?

See the problem with your argument?

(a) deals with a philosophical argument dealing with human nature which is totally UNRELATED to buying & selling.

(b) deals with some unknown format (cash? credit card? RFID chip? Tattoo? some other yet unknown tech?) that DOES has EVERYTHING to do with buying & selling.

Isn't the answer rather obvious now as to which path of inquiry we should be addressing? 

Surely NOT path (a).

I agree, though it seems the buying and selling is the pressure to accept the mark and the reason for the mark is to identify who follows the beast and rejects Christ.

The mark dooms those who wear it to an eternity of punishment. It most certainly carries more meaning than rationing.