Two Kinds of Christians?

[Behold]

17 hours ago, johnthebaptist said:

Jesus forgives us of our sin when we repent of it, yes.

Jesus forgave my sin when i was born again.

All of it.

Why?  Because Jesus became my sin on the Cross and i became His Righteousness.  "The Gift of Righteousness" following my "justification by faith".

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16 hours ago, Cornelius10 said:

So you were not crucified with Christ?

When we are learning about the eternal effect of the Cross, we learn that our "old man" is Crucified with Christ.   

This "old man" is our SIN.  And that is why Jesus bore it and became it, and died for it.  The Cross is God's judgement against our sin, that the Law Demanded.   Christ was delivered for this judgement , which is our release from it, and is our REDEMPTION.

He is removing it from us and in its place we become "new creations IN CHRIST".  We now live IN HIM, as the Born Again.

[Behold]

12 hours ago, johnthebaptist said:

No, the Lord commanded us to repent. He didn't say, "I'll do that for you."

Tbe Lord said. 'you must be born again"..   You can repent till the year 8895, and never be born again.

So, its being redeemed by the Blood of Jesus IS WHY we  belong to God, as there is no other way to be SAVED.

Following being born again, you are to "Walk in the Spirit" so that you do not continue to do "works of the flesh" or as you would define it "sin".

Walking in the Spirit is resting in the Grace of God with the full understanding that God has completed our Eternal Life ALREADY, =  because Jesus who IS Eternal LIFE now lives inside us and we are "in Christ".   Philippians 1:6

So, by seeing ourselves as the redeemed, instead of seeing yourself as "i need to keep trying to keep myself saved", you then "walk in the Spirit" and through this understanding , you are by this revelation elevated from "in the flesh" worker to real BELIEVER.

Edited May 1, 2020 by Behold

[johnthebaptist]

4 hours ago, Behold said:

Jesus forgave my sin when i was born again.

All of it.

Why?  Because Jesus became my sin on the Cross and i became His Righteousness.  "The Gift of Righteousness" following my "justification by faith".

Yes, and he disciplines us if we don't repent.

[johnthebaptist]

4 hours ago, Behold said:

Tbe Lord said. 'you must be born again"..   You can repent till the year 8895, and never be born again.

So, its being redeemed by the Blood of Jesus IS WHY we  belong to God, as there is no other way to be SAVED.

Following being born again, you are to "Walk in the Spirit" so that you do not continue to do "works of the flesh" or as you would define it "sin".

Walking in the Spirit is resting in the Grace of God with the full understanding that God has completed our Eternal Life ALREADY, =  because Jesus who IS Eternal LIFE now lives inside us and we are "in Christ".   Philippians 1:6

So, by seeing ourselves as the redeemed, instead of seeing yourself as "i need to keep trying to keep myself saved", you then "walk in the Spirit" and through this understanding , you are by this revelation elevated from "in the flesh" worker to real BELIEVER.

No matter how you look at it, we need to repent of our sin. Those aren't my words; they are the words of Jesus: Matthew 4:17.

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58 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said:

Yes, and he disciplines us if we don't repent.

I can't repent.  Im already born again.

I repented when i believed on Christ.

 

[Mike Mclees]

⁴ But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another.

⁵ For every man shall bear his own burden. Gal. 6: 4-5

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59 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said:

No matter how you look at it, we need to repent of our sin. Those aren't my words; they are the words of Jesus: Matthew 4:17.

I dont have any sin.

Jesus resolved that for me on the Cross when He died for them ALL.

That's how God looks at it.

Edited May 1, 2020 by Behold

[johnthebaptist]

7 hours ago, Cornelius10 said:

I keep what is given to me by God, Sometimes I give even these things away.

I  am big on the one that was given 5 Talents made 10.

You sound like you give everything away except what you need.

Perhaps you should deposit what you are given in a Savings Account, and Earn Interest.

 

Mat 25:27  Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury.

I saved some money for retirement.

[johnthebaptist]

6 hours ago, Behold said:

I can't repent.  Im already born again.

I repented when i believed on Christ.

 

And you haven't sinned since? Congratulations.