Knotical Posted June 17, 2020 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 183 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 106 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/17/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted June 17, 2020 https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/india-china-james-carafano Not sure this would be a great time to enter another war, but then again when there is a bigger common enemy everyone can focus on maybe we will actually be able to treat each other with a bit more respect. Having a common outside threat certainly allows for people to suddenly put their differences aside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortangel Posted June 17, 2020 Group: Senior Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 839 Content Per Day: 0.44 Reputation: 634 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/12/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted June 17, 2020 intrwsting perspective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddyv Posted June 17, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 4,265 Content Per Day: 2.90 Reputation: 2,302 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/03/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted June 17, 2020 Interesting that it's in Kashmir as well, which has been the site of conflicts between India and Pakistan, as well as internally within India as the more Sikh population had been (still are?) fighting the Hindu majority for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gideon Posted June 17, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 14 Topic Count: 79 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,177 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 826 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/04/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted June 17, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Knotical said: https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/india-china-james-carafano Not sure this would be a great time to enter another war, but then again when there is a bigger common enemy everyone can focus on maybe we will actually be able to treat each other with a bit more respect. Having a common outside threat certainly allows for people to suddenly put their differences aside. There. is a great time to enter a war?? LOL. As to seeing the benefit of a war on how we get along, it does not solve the issues at hand. It simply postpones them. As followers of the Lord, it is imperative we finally understand we are not citizens of this world. The chinese, the Russians, etc. are not our enemy. Sin is, whether it be in this country or another. At some point, we will be required to choose which will prevail, our patriotism or our devotion to Christ. there were good Christians who were Germans in WW2. But as the patriotic flame burned higher, many made choices that they now eternally regret. At one point, years ago in WW2, the United States held and stood for the moral high ground. But Vietnam changed all that. Ever since, we have seen our moral compass as a country slip further and further from the position we once held. It will get worse. Blind loyalty to any country or organization of man will put one in the predicament the early church found themselves in. The only acceptable answer? "We ought to obey God rather than man.". It is a part of the valley of decision we will soon find ourselves in. blessings, Gids Edited June 17, 2020 by Gideon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotical Posted June 17, 2020 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 183 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 106 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/17/2020 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Gideon said: There. is a great time to enter a war?? LOL. As to seeing the benefit of a war on how we get along, it does not solve the issues at hand. It simply postpones them. As followers of the Lord, it is imperative we finally understand we are not citizens of this world. The chinese, the Russians, etc. are not our enemy. Sin is, whether it be in this country or another. At some point, we will be required to choose which will prevail, our patriotism or our devotion to Christ. there were good Christians who were Germans in WW2. But as the patriotic flame burned higher, many made choices that they now eternally regret. At one point, years ago in WW2, the United States held and stood for the moral high ground. But Vietnam changed all that. Ever since, we have seen our moral compass as a country slip further and further from the position we once held. It will get worse. Blind loyalty to any country or organization of man will put one in the predicament the early church found themselves in. The only acceptable answer? "We ought to obey God rather than man.". It is a part of the valley of decision we will soon find ourselves in. blessings, Gids The thing is as long as we are living in this fallen world the only people who will actually see sin for what it is is Christians. Those who do not see sin will not recognize for what it is much less do anything to stop it. So, unfortunately the only times in human history where a large group of people came together was when they had a much larger common enemy than the groups they have disagreements with. Yes, it is tragic that war seems to be that situation where the majority of citizens in a particular country can rally together. However, and this may be a rather pessimistic view, but this country may be at a point that not even a war could bring us together. We may be inexorably heading toward a civil war that will forever change this country, and not for the better. Although, something that could come out of it is this country that spans many thousands of miles will end up splitting into many smaller nations. Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LonerAndy Posted June 17, 2020 Group: Senior Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 693 Content Per Day: 0.42 Reputation: 396 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/28/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted June 17, 2020 6 hours ago, Knotical said: https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/india-china-james-carafano Not sure this would be a great time to enter another war, but then again when there is a bigger common enemy everyone can focus on maybe we will actually be able to treat each other with a bit more respect. Having a common outside threat certainly allows for people to suddenly put their differences aside. I'm not convinced that having a common outside threat will cause people to put aside their difference. 9/11 changed my outlook on this, because we had people openly saying that the United States deserved what happened. And we had Russia, just directly invade a neighboring country, and start slaughtering people, and even to this day nothing happened. Most people don't realize the Ukraine war is still on going. Russia is still in the Ukraine, and in Syria, and in Libya now. Yet more people are interested in fabricating a Russia-Trump connection, than setting aside their differences on a clearly growing Geo-political threat. We had Obama saying if you use chemical weapons, then that's a red line, and we'll get involved.... and they chemical gassed and killed thousands of their people, and nothing happened. So I am actually wondering at this point, if the US will even be involved in World War 3. I think that a large swath of the American public now, sees US interventions as a negative, that somehow we are not a force for good, and we shouldn't be involved in the rest of the world. Just look at the people that think the cause of all the horrors coming out of Venezuela, is because of the US government. This ridiculous belief that the US is a force for evil, I think is exactly why there will be a World War 3, even if the US isn't directly involved. Pulling the US off the world stage, will give nations the belief the US won't stop them from doing stuff. Russia being the perfect example. Additionally, we have a growing debt crisis on our hands, and as the demand by people for more government hand outs grows... pensions... health care... education... and so on... I think that it is now almost inevitable, that National Defence will get cut. We have already reduced our military capability, to fight on a two front war... which was specifically put in place, to deter other nations from thinking that if we were caught in a war with one country, that another country would join in, because the USA can't handle two fronts. We specifically had are capabilities to handle a two-front war. Well now we can't, and our enemies know this. Now I will say that we are still the worlds super power, as things stand today. But unless we change something, that isn't going to be the case for long. We keep saying China doesn't have the technology to wage war yet.... forgetting the word 'yet', because every single month, Chinese tech is growing. And Russia isn't sitting around either. So, I don't know. I don't think the India and China tensions will end up blowing up... but you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1to3 Posted June 17, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 140 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,273 Content Per Day: 1.24 Reputation: 3,091 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/28/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted June 17, 2020 Will this be how we get drawn into WWIII? That is what it looks like the elites of this world are trying to provoke. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotical Posted June 17, 2020 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 183 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 106 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/17/2020 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 17, 2020 The upcoming elections in November are gearing up to be a turning point in this nation's history. If Trump is re-elected we could see complete anarchy perpetrated by the left and their puppet master(s). If Biden wins we will see the ushering in of socialism on a scale worse than anything other countries have seen. But then I am an optimist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted June 17, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,260 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,988 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted June 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Knotical said: The upcoming elections in November are gearing up to be a turning point in this nation's history. If Trump is re-elected we could see complete anarchy perpetrated by the left and their puppet master(s). If Biden wins we will see the ushering in of socialism on a scale worse than anything other countries have seen. But then I am an optimist. if hillary had won Russia Putin had put them in position to go to war. he had brought russian people out of the west back to the mother company. Russia does not want a global government and that is what Biden would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristin Posted June 18, 2020 Group: Senior Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 875 Content Per Day: 0.40 Reputation: 757 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/04/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) Israel is God’s earthly country and people. The Body of Christ is His heavenly people. We are not a country. I love America. I hope God has grace and mercy on this great land and people. Civil war seems to be where we may end up, but I think that is unwise. Things look dark now, but hopefully we are stronger than we know. Obviously Christians must take a political stance these days. Let’s not opt for war until our civic duty (voting) and our prayers aren’t fulfilled. I have faith that we will win that way. Through voting and prayer. If not, bring it on! Lock and load. But let’s be sure. Edited June 18, 2020 by Kristin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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