ONLY ONE GOSPEL ?

[douge]

18 hours ago, Marathoner said:

Read the passages again, @douge. What did the Lord say to the Canaanite woman? "O woman, great is thy faith..."

From whence do you arrive at that judgment? You're imposing your own understanding upon select passages from the Gospel of Matthew, ignoring the testimony of God's own words. Israel is not the name by which we are saved, friend. There is no Jew nor gentile in the Son of God but it appears you are set in your way. Go in peace.  

Yes

Those Gentiles blessed Israel and were blessed, but yes, they had faith in Jesus as the Messiah of Israel, while Israel, as a whole, did not.

Gentiles could always be saved, but until this dispensation they could only be saved through Israel, they had to become proselytes John 4:22.

Only in the body of Christ, in the dispensation of grace, Jew and Gentile become a new creature, one new man. 

Edited July 16, 2020 by douge

[Justin Adams]

13 minutes ago, douge said:

dispensation

Quit with the inferences of dispensational theology. It is wrong.

"I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy.." Abram was not a Jew and neither was Enoch and many others.

[douge]

6 hours ago, Justin Adams said:

Quit with the inferences of dispensational theology. It is wrong.

"I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy.." Abram was not a Jew and neither was Enoch and many others.

Dispensation of grace is not my invention Ephesians 3:2

I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy means that God has chosen the means of salvation and who will have it, it will be by faith and by grace not works, this is the election of grace.

Edited July 16, 2020 by douge

[Marathoner]

Faith in the Son of the living God saves us, @douge. Not faith in a nation, dispensation, nor earthly organization. The passages of scripture I've shared with you in this topic, in particular from the Old Testament of the bible (the Law and Prophets), testifies of this truth. As our brother Justin Adams has pointed out Abram (who became Abraham) wasn't a Jew, neither was Enoch, and it's a certainty that Job wasn't either. Hopefully you'll recall Melchizedek from Genesis 14, the priest of the Most High God, to whom Abram offered a tithe.  He wasn't a Jew.

As referenced in scripture (Hebrews 7:17), Jesus Christ (Yeshua) is forever a priest after the order of Melchizedek. Here's the truth: salvation is in Jesus Christ alone and always has been. Those who love the Lord and obey Him are His regardless of their lineage in this flesh. The passages from Isaiah 56 I shared on the previous page testify of this. 

[Marathoner]

To go further, since there is no Jew nor gentile in the Son of God all who trust in the Lord belong to the same Israel which is not a nation of this Earth. If you'll revisit the scriptures I shared with you in this topic you'll see that those who are in Christ are the seed of Abraham, who himself was not a Jew. Salvation in God preceded considerations of Jew and gentile, douge.  

[Who me]

On 7/15/2020 at 3:02 PM, douge said:

What verse are you talking about?

You started in Matthew 10 but did not read the whole chapter, but picked a verse out of context that supported your view.

Read the whole chapter.

[douge]

On 7/16/2020 at 4:42 PM, Marathoner said:

Faith in the Son of the living God saves us, @douge. Not faith in a nation, dispensation, nor earthly organization. The passages of scripture I've shared with you in this topic, in particular from the Old Testament of the bible (the Law and Prophets), testifies of this truth. As our brother Justin Adams has pointed out Abram (who became Abraham) wasn't a Jew, neither was Enoch, and it's a certainty that Job wasn't either. Hopefully you'll recall Melchizedek from Genesis 14, the priest of the Most High God, to whom Abram offered a tithe.  He wasn't a Jew.

As referenced in scripture (Hebrews 7:17), Jesus Christ (Yeshua) is forever a priest after the order of Melchizedek. Here's the truth: salvation is in Jesus Christ alone and always has been. Those who love the Lord and obey Him are His regardless of their lineage in this flesh. The passages from Isaiah 56 I shared on the previous page testify of this. 

Absolutely, it has always been by grace through faith....Abraham believed God and it was counted unto him for righteousness...we follow the footsteps of Abraham through faith in Christ and the cross.

What exactly do you object to in my post(s)?

[douge]

On 7/17/2020 at 4:39 AM, Who me said:

You started in Matthew 10 but did not read the whole chapter, but picked a verse out of context that supported your view.

Read the whole chapter.

I would like to answer but I am lost here......what exactly am I saying that you disagree with about Matthew 10 ?

 

[Who me]

18 hours ago, douge said:

I would like to answer but I am lost here......what exactly am I saying that you disagree with about Matthew 10 ?

 

You have argued that Jesus's instructions to the disciples were aneternal set of instructions. That they should have only preached to the Jews.

I have pointed out that in the same passage Jesus says they will preach to govoners, kings and to the gentiles.

Showing your understanding of this passage does not include all that was said.

[Marathoner]

On 7/13/2020 at 7:53 AM, douge said:

Matthew 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:

Matthew 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

If we are to preach all Jesus taught, why would we not preach this? Would we not say we can not go to the Gentiles ? Would we not only go to the Jews?

The above is an example of the confusion inherent in your interpretation of scripture, douge.

You claimed that the Canaanite woman from Matthew 15 is an "exception" to your scheme because she blessed Israel when no such thing is inferred. She called upon the Lord, worshiped Him, and like Jacob who refused to relent until God blessed him (Genesis 32) she clung to the Lord with all of her might. The Son of God's name isn't Israel, friend. God has furnished the example of her faith as a lesson to us all.

The title of the OP reflects your belief in more than one Gospel which is fairly representative of your scheme of interpretation. There is only one name by which we are saved... one Gospel which is preached to the ends of the Earth... and one faith delivered by the Lord and His sent ones. Here's my question for you: why are you confused, douge? The Lord did many things while He walked this world in the flesh, many of which were never recorded and passed to us during this age. Just because He sent 12 disciples to the lost sheep of fleshly Israel at a peculiar point in time doesn't mean we ourselves are constrained in such a way. For one thing, the world of today doesn't resemble the world of that day which is long past. 

I can't quite put my finger on it but it seems to me that you've arranged a trap into which you fall frequently. You agree that salvation in Christ Jesus is for all... that's the heart of the gospel which is also referred to as the eternal gospel. There's only ever been one gospel.