ONLY ONE GOSPEL ?

[Fidei Defensor]

There is One Gospel and One New Covenant: 

The days are coming,” declares the Lord,
    “when I will make a new covenant
with the people of Israel
    and with the people of Judah.
32 It will not be like the covenant
    I made with their ancestors
when I took them by the hand
    to lead them out of Egypt
because they broke my covenant,
    though I was a husband to them,”
declares the Lord.
33 “This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel
after that time,” declares the Lord.
“I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts.
I will be their God, and they will be my people.
34 No longer will they teach their neighbor,
    or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’
because they will all know(J) me,  from the least of them to the greatest,”
declares the Lord.
“For I will forgive their wickedness
    and will remember their sins no more.” (Jeremiah 34:31-34) 

“By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.” (Hebrews 8:13) 

“For it is by grace you have been saved through faith. It is not from yourself or anything you've done, but the gift of God.” (Ephensians 2:8-9) 

“But in fact the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which he is mediator is superior to the old one, since the new covenant is established on better promises.” (Hebrews 8:6)

“Certain people came down from Judea to Antioch and were teaching the believers: “Unless you are circumcised, according to the custom taught by Moses, you cannot be saved.” 2 This brought Paul and Barnabas into sharp dispute and debate with them. So Paul and Barnabas were appointed, along with some other believers, to go up to Jerusalem to see the apostles and elders about this question. 3 The church sent them on their way, and as they traveled through Phoenicia and Samaria, they told how the Gentiles had been converted. This news made all the believers very glad. 4 When they came to Jerusalem, they were welcomed by the church and the apostles and elders, to whom they reported everything God had done through them. 5 Then some of the believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees(K) stood up and said, “The Gentiles must be circumcised and required to keep the law of Moses.” 6 The apostles and elders met to consider this question. 7 After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: “Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe. 8 God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. 9 He did not discriminate between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith.10 Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear? 11 No! We believe it is through the grace(T) of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.” (Acts 15:1-11)

”It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery. 2 Mark my words! I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised,Christ will be of no value to you at all. 3 Again I declare to every man who lets himself be circumcised that he is obligated to obey the whole law. 4 You who are trying to be justified by the law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace.” (Galatians 5:1-4) 

“22Jews demand signs and Greeks search for wisdom, 23but we preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles,c 24but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.25For the foolishness of God is wiser than man’s wisdom,d and the weakness of God is stronger than man’s strength.” (1 Corinthians 1:22-25) 

“For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.” (John 3:16-18) 

“This is the Will of my Father, that everyone look to the Son and believe on Him and they shall recieve eternal life, and I will raise them at the last day” (John 6:40)

”Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” (John 14:6) 

“Jesus said to the people who believed in him, “You are truly my disciples if you remain faithful to my teachings. 32 And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”

33 “But we are descendants of Abraham,” they said. “We have never been slaves to anyone. What do you mean, ‘You will be set free’?”

34 Jesus replied, “I tell you the truth, everyone who sins is a slave of sin. 35 A slave is not a permanent member of the family, but a son is part of the family forever. 36 So if the Son sets you free, you are truly free. 37 Yes, I realize that you are descendants of Abraham. And yet some of you are trying to kill me because there’s no room in your hearts for my message. 38 I am telling you what I saw when I was with my Father. But you are following the advice of your father.”

39 “Our father is Abraham!” they declared.

“No,” Jesus replied, “for if you were really the children of Abraham, you would follow his example. 40 Instead, you are trying to kill me because I told you the truth, which I heard from God. Abraham never did such a thing. 41 No, you are imitating your real father.”

They replied, “We aren’t illegitimate children! God himself is our true Father.”

42 Jesus told them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, because I have come to you from God. I am not here on my own, but he sent me. 43 Why can’t you understand what I am saying? It’s because you can’t even hear me! 44 For you are the children of your father the devil, and you love to do the evil things he does. He was a murderer from the beginning. He has always hated the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, it is consistent with his character; for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 So when I tell the truth, you just naturally don’t believe me! 46 Which of you can truthfully accuse me of sin? And since I am telling you the truth, why don’t you believe me? 47 Anyone who belongs to God listens gladly to the words of God. But you don’t listen because you don’t belong to God.”

48 The people retorted, “You Samaritan devil! Didn’t we say all along that you were possessed by a demon?”

49 “No,” Jesus said, “I have no demon in me. For I honor my Father—and you dishonor me. 50 And though I have no wish to glorify myself, God is going to glorify me. He is the true judge. 51 I tell you the truth, anyone who obeys my teaching will never die!”

52 The people said, “Now we know you are possessed by a demon. Even Abraham and the prophets died, but you say, ‘Anyone who obeys my teaching will never die!’ 53 Are you greater than our father Abraham? He died, and so did the prophets. Who do you think you are?”

54 Jesus answered, “If I want glory for myself, it doesn’t count. But it is my Father who will glorify me. You say, ‘He is our God,’55 but you don’t even know him. I know him. If I said otherwise, I would be as great a liar as you! But I do know him and obey him. 56 Your father Abraham rejoiced as he looked forward to my coming. He saw it and was glad.”

57 The people said, “You aren’t even fifty years old. How can you say you have seen Abraham?”

58 Jesus answered, “I tell you the truth, before Abraham was even born, I am!” 59 At that point they picked up stones to throw at him. But Jesus was hidden from them and left the Temple.” (John 8.31-59) 

“8Then Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit, said to them, “Rulers and elders of the people! 9If we are being examined today about a kind service to a man who was lame, to determine how he was healed, 10then let this be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel: It is by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified but whom God raised from the dead, that this man stands before you healed. 11This Jesus is  ‘the stone you builders rejected,
which has become the cornerstone.’a
12Salvation exists in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved.” (Acts 4:9-12) 

“For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh,[a]God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering.And so he condemned sin in the flesh, 4 in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit..” (Romans 8:3-4) 

“56The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law. 57But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ!” (1 Corinthians 15:56-57) 

“Watch out for those dogs, those people who do evil, those mutilators who say you must be circumcised to be saved. 3 For we who worship by the Spirit of God are the ones who are truly circumcised. We rely on what Christ Jesus has done for us. We put no confidence in human effort, 4 though I could have confidence in my own effort if anyone could. Indeed, if others have reason for confidence in their own efforts, I have even more! 5 I was circumcised when I was eight days old. I am a pure-blooded citizen of Israel and a member of the tribe of Benjamin—a real Hebrew if there ever was one! I was a member of the Pharisees, who demand the strictest obedience to the Jewish law. 6 I was so zealous that I harshly persecuted the church. And as for righteousness, I obeyed the law without fault. 7 I once thought these things were valuable, but now I consider them worthless because of what Christ has done. 8 Yes, everything else is worthless when compared with the infinite value of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. For his sake I have discarded everything else, counting it all as garbage, so that I could gain Christ 9 and become one with him. I no longer count on my own righteousness through obeying the law; rather, I become righteous through faith in Christ. For God’s way of making us right with himself depends on faith. 10 I want to know Christ and experience the mighty power that raised him from the dead. I want to suffer with him, sharing in his death, 11 so that one way or another I will experience the resurrection from the dead!” (Philippians 3:1-11). 

“Otherwise Christ would have had to suffer many times since the creation of the world. But he has appeared once for all at the culmination of the ages to do away with sin by the sacrifice of himself.” (Hebrews 9:26) 

Those who preach another gospel than salvation through faith in Jesus are under God’s curse: 

“I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel(N)— 7 which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! 9 As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse!“ (Galatians 1:9). 

and are false apostles: 

“3 But I am afraid that as the serpent deceived Eve by his cunning, your thoughts will be led astray from a sincere and pure devotion to Christ.
4 For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or if you accept a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it too easily. 13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ.
14 And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.
15 So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.” (2 Corinthians 11:3-4, 13-15).

Edited July 20, 2020 by Fidei Defensor

[Guest theElect777]

On 7/13/2020 at 7:53 AM, douge said:

Matthew 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:

Matthew 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

If we are to preach all Jesus taught, why would we not preach this? Would we not say we can not go to the Gentiles ? Would we not only go to the Jews?

Christ was preparing them.   Who better to try to teach a New Idealism to than to the Jews who were abiding by the Law.   

 

The Gentiles were eagerly awaiting this message and acceptance from God, but it was not their time yet.   Just like when the woman begged Christ to heal her daughter and Christ said He was not here for the Gentiles, but for the chosen.   But when she said, even dogs are given the crumbs from the Master's table, Christ healed her daughter by her Faith.   But she was a Gentile and ready to accept the Jewish God.

 

This is why Yeshua sent them to the Jews.  They would be stubborn to their message.

 

And later on in chapter 28, Yeshua sends them to ALL nations because it was time to accept the Gentiles.

Edited July 20, 2020 by theElect777

[Fidei Defensor]

Those who preach another gospel than salvation through faith in Jesus are under God’s curse: 

“I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7 which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! 9 As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse!“ (Galatians 1:6-9). 

and are false apostles: 

“3 But I am afraid that as the serpent deceived Eve by his cunning, your thoughts will be led astray from a sincere and pure devotion to Christ.
4 For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or if you accept a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it too easily. 13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ.
14 And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.
15 So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.” (2 Corinthians 11:3-4, 13-15).

Edited July 20, 2020 by Fidei Defensor

[douge]

6 hours ago, Who me said:

You have argued that Jesus's instructions to the disciples were aneternal set of instructions. That they should have only preached to the Jews.

I have pointed out that in the same passage Jesus says they will preach to govoners, kings and to the gentiles.

Showing your understanding of this passage does not include all that was said.

Lets go back to the beginning 

Absolutely!  Only ONE Gospel.  What does it mean to preach the Gospel?  It means to preach everything Jesus taught.  .…and you know where it’s written?  It’s all written in God’s Word. 

Matthew 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:

Matthew 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

If we are to preach all Jesus taught, why would we not preach this? Would we not say we can not go to the Gentiles ? Would we not only go to the Jews?

I was responding that we were to preach EVERYTHING Jesus taught.

Now you, are rightly dividing, and saying this was for a specific time....you are doing what we should and rightly dividing. You would have to rightly divide otherwise you have contradictions sometimes....you can not say we just preach and obey everything, you can not.

[douge]

2 hours ago, Marathoner said:

Just because He sent 12 disciples to the lost sheep of fleshly Israel at a peculiar point in time doesn't mean we ourselves are constrained in such a way.

I agree, we must rightly divide scripture to know we need to obey and apply.

[douge]

2 hours ago, Marathoner said:

There's only ever been one gospel

Please tell me what the gospel is.

[douge]

1 hour ago, theElect777 said:

Christ was preparing them.   Who better to try to teach a New Idealism to than to the Jews who were abiding by the Law.   

 

The Gentiles were eagerly awaiting this message and acceptance from God, but it was not their time yet.   Just like when the woman begged Christ to heal her daughter and Christ said He was not here for the Gentiles, but for the chosen.   But when she said, even dogs are given the crumbs from the Master's table, Christ healed her daughter by her Faith.   But she was a Gentile and ready to accept the Jewish God.

 

This is why Yeshua sent them to the Jews.  They would be stubborn to their message.

 

And later on in chapter 28, Yeshua sends them to ALL nations because it was time to accept the Gentiles.

Gentiles could always come to God through Israel.

In Matthew 28:19 what gospel were the disciples supposed to preach to the nations?

[Guest theElect777]

20 minutes ago, douge said:

Gentiles could always come to God through Israel.

In Matthew 28:19 what gospel were the disciples supposed to preach to the nations?

The Gospel is Christ Crucified, Died, Resurrection!   Don't confuse Baptismal Formulas with Gospel.   The 2 are not remotely close to being the same thing.

[Marathoner]

38 minutes ago, douge said:

Please tell me what the gospel is.

You don't know?

God so loved the world that He sent His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. (John 3:16) Whoever will call upon the name of the Lord will be saved (Romans 10:13; Joel 2:32). 

[David1701]

51 minutes ago, douge said:

Please tell me what the gospel is.

1 Cor. 15:1-8 (VW)

1 Moreover, brethren, I declare to you the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received and in which you stand,
2 by which also you are being kept safe, if you hold fast that Word which I preached to you; unless you believe in vain.
3 For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures,
4 and that He was buried, and that He was raised the third day according to the Scriptures,
5 and that He was seen by Cephas, then by the twelve.
6 After that He was seen by over five hundred brethren at once, of whom the greater part remain until the present time, but some have fallen asleep.
7 After that He was seen by Jacob, then by each of the apostles.
8 Then last of all He was seen by me also, as by one of untimely birth.