The Pre Tribulation Raptured Church

[iamlamad]

Just now, DeighAnn said:

THIS MIGHT BE BELIEVED BY ANYONE WHO HASN'T READ EZEKIEL 40 ON, BUT FOR THOSE OF US WHO HAVE,  WE RECOGNIZE THIS AS ANOTHER FALSE STATEMENT

THE ONLY TIME ANY ONE WILL DIE FOREVER IS IN THE LAKE OF FIRE, ALL AT ONCE,  DEAD REMAIN DEAD TILL THAT NEXT TESTING WHEN SATAN LOOSED.  TILL THEN THE NATIONS WILL BE COMING TO THE TEMPLE TO WORSHIP

THAT WOULD BE SPIRITUALLY DEAD

Lamad had written: "The Day of the Lord" is an extended period of time where God's plan is to destroy this planet (not all at once) and kill the sinners on the planet. "

Your answer: "THIS MIGHT BE BELIEVED BY ANYONE WHO HASN'T READ EZEKIEL 40 ON, BUT FOR THOSE OF US WHO HAVE,  WE RECOGNIZE THIS AS ANOTHER FALSE STATEMENT"

Why is it you are nearly always mistaken? Read:

Isaiah 13:⁹ Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it.

Do you see it? What I wrote was almost a direct quote from Isaiah 13.  Of course it is truth. The sad part is, you did not recognize it as scripture or truth.  Where does this leave you?

[iamlamad]

9 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

THE SABBATH?

Jewish Sabbath is Saturday. 

[DeighAnn]

Just now, Justin Adams said:

Yeshu arose on the Eve of the Sabbath. Exactly 72 hours after he was in the grave. Wed Nisan 14 thru Nisan 17.

He arose on the Sabbath, as foretold in many places. The RCC sun-day is fake.

All I believe on this is 

Colossians 2:15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

Colossians 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

Colossians 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

and  I feel EVERYDAY is the best day to be in the Lord.  

i just want everyone to come to Christ and not to be deceived by anyone or anything until He gets here.  And when He comes it will be heaven on earth because Heaven is where ever God is.  
 

 

 

[DeighAnn]

Philipians 3:17 Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample.

Philipians 3:18 (For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:

Philipians 3:19 Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)

Philipians 3:20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:

Philipians 3:21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.




Which made me question?
Can Christ even come into our atmosphere and ALL not be changed? 
I don't think that would be possible. 
Heaven is where ever God is and flesh and blood can not enter into heaven.  So heaven in our AIR would by nature change all in one way or the other.  

[DeighAnn]

Simplicity in Christ

We are given 7 trumps.  

At the last trump comes the change.  We have to change because Christ is coming to earth and flesh and blood WILL NO LONGER BE "ALLOWED" (I don't know what word to use here) because of HIS PRESENCE.

7 is the last trump of the 7 we are given.  

So you can change that yourself and say the 7th trump is not the last

OR

You can believe that we are given 7 trumps and the 7th is the last.  

God is not the author of confusion.  God gives us wisdom and knowledge through the WORD.   Common Sense.  

 

Revelation 8:6 And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound.

Revelation 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

 

[DeighAnn]

5 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

You are CONFLATING peoples, there are two sets of peoples, Saints of the Church Age who are Raptured and in Heaven during the 70th week, and those who give their lives to Christ Jesus AFTER the Rapture and thus become Martyrs, they are the Remnant Church.

Says the THEORY

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1 minute ago, DeighAnn said:

Simplicity in Christ

We are given 7 trumps.  

At the last trump comes the change.  We have to change because Christ is coming to earth and flesh and blood WILL NO LONGER BE "ALLOWED" (I don't know what word to use here) because of HIS PRESENCE.

7 is the last trump of the 7 we are given.  

So you can change that yourself and say the 7th trump is not the last

OR

You can believe that we are given 7 trumps and the 7th is the last.  

God is not the author of confusion.  God gives us wisdom and knowledge through the WORD.   Common Sense.  

 

Revelation 8:6 And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound.

Revelation 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

 

The 7th trumpet is the last trumpet.

The events surrounding the 7th trumpet fit the requirements to be the last trumpet. The resurrection, judgment, and revealing of Jesus Rev 11:15-19.

The idea that there are additional resurrections after the 7th/last trumpet conflict with 1 Cor 15:23-28, which clearly states that there are only 2 resurrections.

The second coming/resurrection for salvation happens at the 7th/last trumpet Heb 9:28.

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The story of the 2 witnesses (2W's), is the same story as the seals and trumpets.

Both show the story of the flesh/broken branches from 37 AD until the 2nd coming/resurrection for salvation.

The seals/trumpets show the unbelieving broken branches from the viewpoint that they suffer God's withdrawing of blessings until they are restored to Jerusalem.

The 2W's show the same time only from the view that they are still blessed because of the promises made to the fathers.

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Both stories end at the 7th/last trumpet. Then the same time line is repeated over and over from different viewpoints.

They show the last events of Israel on this planet.

After the resurrection/rapture, this planet ends in fire Rev 20.

Sadly, many teach that there will be "second chances" after the 7th/last trumpet resurrection.

 

[DeighAnn]

1 hour ago, iamlamad said:

Why is it you are nearly always mistaken? Read:

You feel the need to keep saying I am mistaken because I do not believe as you.  THAT DOES NOT MAKE YOU RIGHT and me wrong.  God will lead his own to His Truth. 

You saying it does NOT make what you say GODs Truth.  But if you wish to keep on judging know that it is not on my toes you are stepping

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27 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

 

Revelation 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

 

What is the "mystery of God" that is finished?

If the mystery of God is finished when the 7th trumpet sounds, what mystery of God can exist after the trumpet sounds? 

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There is a movie, where they invent a supercomputer to find the answer to life, the universe, and everything.

The computer's answer is 42.

The people don't understand what the answer means.

Then the computer says that to know what the answer means, you must ask the right question.

That is kind of what understanding the Bible is like, the Bible has the answers, but we must ask the right questions, to know what the answers mean.

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If I ask you a question, it is not because I don't know the answer, it is so that you must reason out the answer for yourself.

If I just tell you the answer, somehow, it is not an answer that one can accept.

But if you reason out the answer for yourself, then you will believe it to be true.

I am just trying to show you the right questions to ask, to find the meaning of the answers.

[iamlamad]

26 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

You feel the need to keep saying I am mistaken because I do not believe as you.  THAT DOES NOT MAKE YOU RIGHT and me wrong.  God will lead his own to His Truth. 

You saying it does NOT make what you say GODs Truth.  But if you wish to keep on judging know that it is not on my toes you are stepping

When I quote a verse, almost word for word, and you say 'we recognize this as another false statement" what else can one say? You are mistaken for the simple reason you disagree with the written scriptures. This is TRUTH:  

Isaiah 13:⁹ Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it.

So what is God's plan for the Day of the Lord?
1. The lay the land desolate
2. To destroy the sinners out of it.

And WHERE does this Day of the Lord begin? At the 6th seal:

 

¹² And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

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¹⁷ For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

If you doubt this is the start of the Day, notice the first trumpets:
1. All the green grass burnt up, and 1/3 of trees destroyed.
2. 1/3 of seas turned to blood.
3. 1/3 of fresh water turned to blood.
4. 1/3 of the population killed.

Question: does this SEEM like God systematically destroying the land - laying it desolate? Does it seem like God beginning to destroy the sinners out of it? You know it does.

Make no mistaken then: the Day of the Lord certainly starts right where John tells us it starts: at the 6th seal. 

It really does not matter of you don't believe as I do: what matters is that you believe the written Word - AS WRITTEN. 

By the way, I am not trying to step on toes. If your feet feel stepped on, I am sorry. This is a public forum. When people write error, it is up to others to correct error.  Can we just stick close to the written word?

Another question: if you see that you are mistaken, can you admit it and change?

Edited August 9, 2020 by iamlamad