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My husband is a JW and adamantly believes that Jesus was not God. It has caused some strain in our relationship, but a Christian friend of mine told me recently that believing Jesus is God is not as important as understanding he is our Savior and accepting him. I am still confused.

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My husband is a JW and adamantly believes that Jesus was not God.  It has caused some strain in our relationship, but a Christian friend of mine told me recently that believing Jesus is God is not as important as understanding he is our Savior and accepting him.  I am still confused.

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I am sorry, but your friend is wrong. The reason you are confused is simply a product of not being grounded in the Deity of Jesus. No one who examines what the Bible has to say about Jesus honestly can come away with any other conviction that Jesus is God.

The Deity of Jesus cannot be compromised on. It is not like the peripheral issues of the rapture, which will be debated ad nauseum. The Deity of Jesus is an essential doctrine and core belief of the Christian faith.

If Jesus is not God, then He is not the Savior. There is only ONE Savior of mankind according to the Bible, and He is God. If Jesus is the Savior, then He is also God.

In my first response in this thread I posted a link to a study I have done on these recently concerning the Deity of Jesus. I would refer you to that study as you endeavor to gain a firm grasp of this important issue.

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Skyla,

How do you think Jesus is and what does He mean to you ? :P

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skyla, the answer is "yes." We must believe that Jesus is the I AM of Exodus 3:14.

Joh 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

Now, the word "he" in italics is not in the original languages/manuscripts and has been added by the translators for "readability." So, in essence it should look like this.

Joh 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am, ye shall die in your sins.

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Exo 3:13 And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?

Exo 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

Furthermore, the Father Himself called Jesus "God."

Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

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Jesus would still have deity status if he were the Son of God alone (and not God himself).

angels4us: I believe Jesus is God. I am just searching for a way to convince my husband of it! I was hoping there was a book will all the quotes from the bible that point to this...or a website?

Never saw Heb. 1:8, though...pretty convincing. And John (chp. one).

Still, I don't think it says anywhere in the bible: "You must know I am God, or else!" Just: "Follow me." "Recognize me as your Savior." "Recognize me as the Son of God." That Jesus was God seemed more of a secret? Not really something that had to be understood for salvation.

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Still, I don't think it says anywhere in the bible: "You must know I am God, or else!" Just: "Follow me." "Recognize me as your Savior." "Recognize me as the Son of God." That Jesus was God seemed more of a secret? Not really something that had to be understood for salvation.

Skyla, Jesus does not threaten us to believe He is God, but the Bible provides ample demonstration of Jesus' Deity. Did you read the link I posted in my first response in this thread? I did a study on the Deity of Jesus, and you can find it in the Study Groups forum. That is what the link is about. It is called "A Biblical Understanding of Jesus' Deity." I deal with a plethora of Scriptures in mulitple posts that demonstrate conclusively that Jesus was and is God.

Skyla, if Jesus is not God, then no one is saved. Believing that Jesus is our Savior is linked to believing He is God. We cannot have one without the other.

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shiloh: I still don't really understand it...how it is necessary for salvation. I am not trying to be stubborn. I want to understand so that I can explain it to others. Can you link me to your article?

Remember, though, Jesus is still divine if he is God's Son and not God. And one can still accept him as Savior without recognizing him as God. (that's the argument i always get back!) :noidea:

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Why would Jesus pray to himself if he was God?

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