JERUSALEM IS FALLING

[iamlamad]

18 hours ago, abcdef said:

Some?

Nobody, as far as I know, nobody is saying what I am.

No website, group, or denomination.

This is an entirely new time line and sequence that could not be revealed until after 2003.

It seems that everyone has part of the sequences right, but just have not gotten the entire picture and the details of how they fit together.

They want to hang on to the centuries old timelines.

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Again, there are 1.2 billion people in the RCC that believe that you are not a Christian. 

 

I did start discussing the trumpets and vials with you, but i think you said that you were sorry that you asked, ha ha.

Seals, 37 AD the covenant confirmed by the prince Jesus is broken by Israel rejecting the new covenant, - until 70 AD. seventh seal.

Trumpets, 70 AD until Jesus comes for the resur/rapt at the 7th trumpet and this planet ends.

Vials, 70 AD until the end of the planet earth.

So this new theory of truth is to be revealed by you. Interesting. 

You and I are SO FAR APART in the way we read the scriptures, there is no point in continuing.  There is almost NOTHING we agree on! Maybe we can agree that "JESUS SAVES!"

[abcdef]

5 hours ago, iamlamad said:

So this new theory of truth is to be revealed by you. Interesting. 

You and I are SO FAR APART in the way we read the scriptures, there is no point in continuing.  There is almost NOTHING we agree on! Maybe we can agree that "JESUS SAVES!"

You think that we are far apart, but not really.

It is just a matter of an adjustment in the viewpoint of the time lines.

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I believe, that if you were to answer the questions that I have asked you, that you would see the truth.

The questions are not hard to answer, people just do not want to answer because the truth is the light, and some do not come to the light because of error. We as Christians have come to the light and our souls are bare to Jesus. We are supposed to walk in the light, continue getting closer to the light. The light is truth, truth is light, Jesus is truth, Jesus is light, The truth reveals the light, which is Jesus.

We must face the truth, stand before the truth, stand in the truth, the truth is, God is love. He wants us to know the truth.

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Prophecy is a revealing, it is not up to me what people understand and what they don't understand, that is up to the Holy Spirit to reveal it to them.

People in the OT wanted to know about Jesus, but it was not revealed until after Jesus died and was resurrected. They were wrong in their understanding, but they tried. I don't believe that we can count it against them, because it just wasn't revealed yet.

But after a prophecy is revealed and understood, by the power of the Holy Spirit, those who oppose it, knowing the truth and denying it, are fighting a futile battle. The prophecies will be fulfilled and the truth will be obvious to all. 

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Understand that these prophecies about the end of the planet and the end of Israel on this planet, are all going to be revealed before the final day of the Lord, which is coming soon.

Everything is being revealed now.

The reason that everything is being revealed now, is because it won't be resulting in the saving of souls after the planet ends.

That is, most prophecies have an effect before the event that is spoken of, and an effect afterwards, in that people see that God's Word is the truth and give their lives to Jesus.

In this case, where the planet ends, there will be no chances afterward for souls to look back and see that the prophecies were true and be saved as a result.

After the planet ends in fire, the Bridegroom's door will be closed. There will be no second chances to be saved after that.

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I know that you have understood much of what I have said.

It is different, but what did you expect? The same things that have been taught by people for centuries?

"My group/denomination has taught this theory (preterism/pretrib) for 1000 years and we are not changing now, even if it is the truth," that is what they say.

Don't be one of them.

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These things take time and a lot of thinking about the scriptures, dwelling on them.

Take your time, but hurry up because the end of this material planet and universe is here.

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[abcdef]

The resurrection/rapture will happen EXACTLY when the Bible says it will.

At the last/7th trumpet, 3 1/2 days after Jerusalem falls to the army of the 6th trumpet. (Iran and it's allies, Syria and Russia.)

 

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Congratulations,

You all have been fooled by the RCC Antichrist.

What?

Yes, both preterism and pretrib prove that the Bishop of Rome is not the Antichrist.

How?

By skipping over the period from 70 AD until the present. (No gaps)

Preterism - The Bishop of Rome can't be the Antichrist, because everything in the Bible was fulfilled by 70 AD. (Which is not true).

Pretrib - The Bishop of Rome can't be the Antichrist, because he is future.

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Think about this, Martin Luther said that the Bishop of Rome was the Antichrist.

But when he said it, it was centuries ago.

So if he was right, the Antichrist was present at that time.

So that means that Martin Luther was neither a preterist or a pretrib.

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He was right,

The Antichrist is a line of people that started with Caesar and continues to this day.

 

[abcdef]

Jerusalem is falling, but you are not paying attention.

Armies from across the Euphrates and the world are building up to invade Israel, but you are not seeing it.

The signs of His coming are flashing, but you do not recognize them.

Support for Israel is fading, but you don't believe it.

The 6th trumpet has blown, the 6th vial poured out, and the nations of Magog are beginning to cover the broad plain of Israel, but you don't see it because you are not reading the symbols correctly.

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He is not far away, Jesus is coming for His kingdom.

The signs declare, THE BRIDEGROOM IS COMING, but you are still sleeping, half awake.

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When will you realize that this is it, Jesus is coming for the kingdom and the door will be shut forever. 

When the battle for Armageddon begins? Or is finished and Israel loses?

When the armies are attacking Jerusalem?

After Jerusalem falls?

When the bodies of Israel lie in the streets of Jerusalem for 3 1/2 days?

When the world celebrates and sends gifts to each other, that the tormentors, the people of Israel, are dead?

After we are in heaven with Jesus?

It is not a question of "if" you will believe it, just a matter of "when". 

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You may say, this can't be the coming.

But soon you will see it.

Maybe a few years, maybe even months from now, Jerusalem will fall.

Then Jesus will come.

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All the false theories will die, preterism, pretrib.

All the people that say that the symbols themselves are the literal entities will be proven wrong.

It is only a short time now.

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When will Jesus come for the kingdom?

Just EXACTLY when the Bible says, at the last/7th trumpet, 3 1/2 days after Jerusalem falls.

 

[Montana Marv]

4 hours ago, abcdef said:

Jerusalem is falling, but you are not paying attention.

Armies from across the Euphrates and the world are building up to invade Israel, but you are not seeing it.

The signs of His coming are flashing, but you do not recognize them.

Support for Israel is fading, but you don't believe it.

The 6th trumpet has blown, the 6th vial poured out, and the nations of Magog are beginning to cover the broad plain of Israel, but you don't see it because you are not reading the symbols correctly.

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He is not far away, Jesus is coming for His kingdom.

The signs declare, THE BRIDEGROOM IS COMING, but you are still sleeping, half awake.

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When will you realize that this is it, Jesus is coming for the kingdom and the door will be shut forever. 

When the battle for Armageddon begins? Or is finished and Israel loses?

When the armies are attacking Jerusalem?

After Jerusalem falls?

When the bodies of Israel lie in the streets of Jerusalem for 3 1/2 days?

When the world celebrates and sends gifts to each other, that the tormentors, the people of Israel, are dead?

After we are in heaven with Jesus?

It is not a question of "if" you will believe it, just a matter of "when". 

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You may say, this can't be the coming.

But soon you will see it.

Maybe a few years, maybe even months from now, Jerusalem will fall.

Then Jesus will come.

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All the false theories will die, preterism, pretrib.

All the people that say that the symbols themselves are the literal entities will be proven wrong.

It is only a short time now.

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When will Jesus come for the kingdom?

Just EXACTLY when the Bible says, at the last/7th trumpet, 3 1/2 days after Jerusalem falls.

 

Nonsense.

Still waiting for the First Seal. Still waiting for the Ezk 38 and 39 war.

Your spiritual interpretation of the symbols is wrong.

In Christ

Montana Marv

[abcdef]

2 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

Nonsense.

Still waiting for the First Seal.

Ok, all you have to do is answer this simple question,

What does the scroll of seven seals say?

 

2 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

Still waiting for the Ezk 38 and 39 war.

History, they use guns and bombs now, not bows and arrows.

 

2 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

 

Your spiritual interpretation of the symbols is wrong.

The OT defines what the symbols mean.

 

2 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

 

In Christ

Montana Marv

 

[Montana Marv]

35 minutes ago, abcdef said:

Ok, all you have to do is answer this simple question,

What does the scroll of seven seals say?

 

History, they use guns and bombs now, not bows and arrows.

 

The OT defines what the symbols mean.

 

 

The scroll does not talk. But it is refered to as a book with seven seals on the back.

Open the first seal and the first page is revealed. Open the second seal and the second page is revealed, etc.

History changes, in three years from now, bows, arrows and clubs maybe the weapons of war. People without food may accept anything to survive. Give up your weapons.

Prophecy defines what is said and done. If it says East, it is East. If it says 3,000, it is 3,000. If it says it is like, then it is similar to.

In Christ

Montana Marv

[abcdef]

2 minutes ago, Montana Marv said:

The scroll does not talk. But it is refered to as a book with seven seals on the back.

The scroll does not talk, ha, ha, funny way to avoid the question.

Let's try again, What is written in the scroll?

Where is it told what the content of the scroll is?

 

2 minutes ago, Montana Marv said:

Open the first seal and the first page is revealed. Open the second seal and the second page is revealed, etc.

Ok, what is revealed in the scroll?

 

2 minutes ago, Montana Marv said:

History changes, in three years from now, bows, arrows and clubs maybe the weapons of war. People without food may accept anything to survive. Give up your weapons.

Please, really? Russia, China, Iran, the U.S., Canada, Germany, Syria, England, France, all forget where they put there weapons? (I know I left that nuclear bomb around here somewhere.)

People forget how to make guns and bombs?

No airplanes to drop bombs? No missiles? Ships with cannons?

You are trying to make the past, future.

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Why must the Ezek 38-39 war be future? 

Why won't people just accept it as history?

 

2 minutes ago, Montana Marv said:

 

Prophecy defines what is said and done. If it says East, it is East. If it says 3,000, it is 3,000. If it says it is like, then it is similar to.

So the Bible and Revelation are entirely literal?

No symbolism at all?

The 4 horsemen are literally 4 people on horses?

If the sky literally departs at the 6th seal, how can there be a sun, moon, and stars and heavens for other plagues?

The beast is a literal animal, like a dog or cat?

The sea beast is a literal creature coming out of the oceans?

The abyss is a literal hole in the ground?

 

2 minutes ago, Montana Marv said:

 

In Christ

Montana Marv

 

[Montana Marv]

7 minutes ago, abcdef said:

The scroll does not talk, ha, ha, funny way to avoid the question.

Let's try again, What is written in the scroll?

Where is it told what the content of the scroll is?

 

Ok, what is revealed in the scroll?

 

Please, really? Russia, China, Iran, the U.S., Canada, Germany, Syria, England, France, all forget where they put there weapons? (I know I left that nuclear bomb around here somewhere.)

People forget how to make guns and bombs?

No airplanes to drop bombs? No missiles? Ships with cannons?

You are trying to make the past, future.

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Why must the Ezek 38-39 war be future? 

Why won't people just accept it as history?

 

So the Bible and Revelation are entirely literal?

No symbolism at all?

The 4 horsemen are literally 4 people on horses?

If the sky literally departs at the 6th seal, how can there be a sun, moon, and stars and heavens for other plagues?

The beast is a literal animal, like a dog or cat?

The sea beast is a literal creature coming out of the oceans?

The abyss is a literal hole in the ground?

 

 

Open the scroll to see what is to come.

What does the prophecy say. It says what it means. No symbolism.

A one world leader will make most anything happen. You just need to wait and see.

You are looking at the present and not believing that things are going change in the future.

Are the three horseman riding pig's.

Abysses are usually holes in the ground.

If you take it word for word you will be better off. There is some symbolism, some. But then that symbolism is described.

The beast is a man maybe with animal like qualities.

In Christ

Montana Marv

[abcdef]

1 minute ago, Montana Marv said:

Open the scroll to see what is to come.

So you can't answer the question of what is in the scroll?

What is revealed in the scroll?

Maybe you just don't want to answer,

Or the question is far too hard.

Too bad.

 

1 minute ago, Montana Marv said:

What does the prophecy say. It says what it means. No symbolism.

Is this remark about Ezek 38-39?

"It says what it means, no symbolism"?

There is no symbolism in Ezek 38-39?

Then WHY try to make it future, when it is obviously past?

 

1 minute ago, Montana Marv said:

A one world leader will make most anything happen. You just need to wait and see.

The one world leader has been here for 2000 years.

It is NOT THE PLANET, it is THE WORLD OF ISRAEL.

Daniel 2:39, says that the kingdom of brass, "shall bear rule over all the earth."

But Greece did not rule the planet, only the earth of Israel.

 

1 minute ago, Montana Marv said:

You are looking at the present and not believing that things are going change in the future.

Things will change, but starving people use their weapons.

You think Putin will give up the bomb? China? Israel?

 

1 minute ago, Montana Marv said:

Are the three horseman riding pig's.

Are you saying that the horses are literal?

Are you prepared to defend your position?

 

1 minute ago, Montana Marv said:

Abysses are usually holes in the ground.

So you are saying that the beast, you say a man, literally comes out of a hole in the ground?

 

1 minute ago, Montana Marv said:

If you take it word for word you will be better off. There is some symbolism, some. But then that symbolism is described.

The symbols represent real entities and events,

But the symbols themselves, are not the material entities. (horsemen)

 

1 minute ago, Montana Marv said:

The beast is a man maybe with animal like qualities.

Agree

 

1 minute ago, Montana Marv said:

 

In Christ

Montana Marv