PETER AND PAUL AND THE RESURRECTION AND SALVATION

[douge]

There is a difference in the preaching of Peter and Paul in regards to the resurrection and salvation.

The resurrection:

The twelve preached Jesus raised from the dead to sit upon the throne of David (Acts 2:30).

Paul preached that Jesus was raised for our justification unto eternal life (Romans 4:25).

Salvation:

The twelve preached the forgiveness of sin and salvation for the believing nation of Israel at the coming of Christ (Acts 3:19 1 Peter 1:5 1 Peter 1:7).

Paul preached salvation now by faith in the shed blood of Christ (Ephesians 2:8).

[Jedi4Yahweh]

Both Peter and Paul are true in both statements and in both cases. 

It would be like saying: X: Yahshua came to heal the sick.  Y: Yahshua came to die on the cross for our sins.  Both Y and X statements are logical true so you could say Yahshua came to heal the sick and die on the cross for sins.

Resurrection:  Yahshua did die for our sins, justification and eternal life but he also will reign as King over the whole earth and the 12 disciples will sit upon thrones over the 12 tribes Israel, both statements are true.  Yahshua is coming back to reign on earth and dwell among his people and will be King of the whole earth his bride will be with him here on earth.  Believers are the bride.

Salvation: All the apostles taught salvation for both Jew and Gentile not just for believing Israel.  Peter is the first Apostle that God revealed that the good news and salvation was for Gentiles as well in Acts 9 & 10 via the vision of the clean and unclean animals.  He was the first apostle to preach to the Gentiles about salvation.  This was also revealed when Yahshua told the apostles to go preach and teach the gospel to all the nations (Gentiles) starting in Jerusalem (Jews). All the Apostles were commissioned to take the Gospel to the Gentiles.  As regards to the time of the restoration of the Kingdom of Israel and the 12 tribes has not happened yet still to be fulfilled.

Edited August 17, 2020 by Jedi4Yahweh

[TheBlade]

Nope... Jesus/Yeshua resurrection and salvation both the same. I will add that there are names that are no where in the word of God nor anywhere written in the Torah.. just sharing.

[douge]

13 hours ago, Jedi4Yahweh said:

Both Peter and Paul are true in both statements and in both cases. 

It would be like saying: X: Yahshua came to heal the sick.  Y: Yahshua came to die on the cross for our sins.  Both Y and X statements are logical true so you could say Yahshua came to heal the sick and die on the cross for sins.

Resurrection:  Yahshua did die for our sins, justification and eternal life but he also will reign as King over the whole earth and the 12 disciples will sit upon thrones over the 12 tribes Israel, both statements are true.  Yahshua is coming back to reign on earth and dwell among his people and will be King of the whole earth his bride will be with him here on earth.  Believers are the bride.

Salvation: All the apostles taught salvation for both Jew and Gentile not just for believing Israel.  Peter is the first Apostle that God revealed that the good news and salvation was for Gentiles as well in Acts 9 & 10 via the vision of the clean and unclean animals.  He was the first apostle to preach to the Gentiles about salvation.  This was also revealed when Yahshua told the apostles to go preach and teach the gospel to all the nations (Gentiles) starting in Jerusalem (Jews). All the Apostles were commissioned to take the Gospel to the Gentiles.  As regards to the time of the restoration of the Kingdom of Israel and the 12 tribes has not happened yet still to be fulfilled.

I was only pointing out that they did not all preach the same thing as some say.

[Jedi4Yahweh]

8 minutes ago, douge said:

I was only pointing out that they did not all preach the same thing as some say.

How so?  Just because I describe something one way and you describe something from your perspective does not mean we are not talking about the same thing.

[douge]

On 8/17/2020 at 10:25 AM, Jedi4Yahweh said:

How so?  Just because I describe something one way and you describe something from your perspective does not mean we are not talking about the same thing.

The content and premise would have to be the same to meet your conditions.

In regard to the resurrection as an example; how could Christ being raised to sit on the throne of David be the same as saying he was raised for our justification unto eternal life?

[Justin Adams]

On 8/17/2020 at 3:10 PM, douge said:

I was only pointing out that they did not all preach the same thing as some say.

There is only ONE Gospel.

[Justin Adams]

4 minutes ago, douge said:

The content and premise would have to be the same to meet your conditions.

In regard to the resurrection as an example; how could Christ being raised to sit on the throne of David be the same as saying he was raised for our justification unto eternal life?

He is God. He can do or be whatever He wants to be or do...

Edited August 18, 2020 by Justin Adams

[David1701]

50 minutes ago, douge said:

The content and premise would have to be the same to meet your conditions.

In regard to the resurrection as an example; how could Christ being raised to sit on the throne of David be the same as saying he was raised for our justification unto eternal life?

They are different facets of the resurrection.

When you look at a mountain, do you claim that it only has one side?

[douge]

On 8/18/2020 at 4:13 PM, David1701 said:

They are different facets of the resurrection.

When you look at a mountain, do you claim that it only has one side?

You are right....that is what I am saying.....some say that Jesus, the twelve, and Paul all preached the same thing.