Abraham Credited As Righteous?

[Open7]

Im reading Romans 4:23-25. And I’m thinking, how is it that Abraham has righteousness for believing that God would give him a son?
 

People can only be saved by Jesus, including Abraham. So why was Abraham credited with righteousness because he believed God would give him a son? (Isaac).
 

And here is my own attempt at answering. This was the case because if Abraham believed God for this, by default he would also believe Jesus also.

Any thoughts?

[Tzephanyahu]

Shalom @Open7

I believe is was credited to him as righteousness because, against all odds, he STILL believed in the promise. 

Bith Abraham and Sarah were beyond child-bearing years so with earthly wisdom one would say it was impossible, yet Abraham trusted in Yahweh. 

Such is the faith we must have when facing our own deaths. 

In fact, Abraham so believed in Yahweh's promise that he thought that He would resurrect Isaac after Abraham was to offer him up. 

Love & Shalom 

[Refresher]

41 minutes ago, Open7 said:

Im reading Romans 4:23-25. And I’m thinking, how is it that Abraham has righteousness for believing that God would give him a son?
 

People can only be saved by Jesus, including Abraham. So why was Abraham credited with righteousness because he believed God would give him a son? (Isaac).
 

And here is my own attempt at answering. This was the case because if Abraham believed God for this, by default he would also believe Jesus also.

Any thoughts?

Brother, please be reminded that Abraham life was under the old testament before Jesus Christ death and resurrection and if you read the details about Abraham in Romans book,  it means Abraham is one of the example about righteousness a 100% human that created by God like us.

As per the bible says that's it as no one can argue.

1. Romans 4:9 New King James Version "Abraham Justified Before Circumcision"

Does this blessedness then come upon the circumcised only, or upon the uncircumcised also? For we say that faith was accounted to Abraham for righteousness.

2. Galatians 3:6 New King James Version

just as Abraham “believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.”

3. James 2:23 New King James Version

 And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.” And he was called the friend of God.

 

Edited August 17, 2020 by Refresher

[Billiards Ball]

8 hours ago, Open7 said:

Im reading Romans 4:23-25. And I’m thinking, how is it that Abraham has righteousness for believing that God would give him a son?
 

People can only be saved by Jesus, including Abraham. So why was Abraham credited with righteousness because he believed God would give him a son? (Isaac).
 

And here is my own attempt at answering. This was the case because if Abraham believed God for this, by default he would also believe Jesus also.

Any thoughts?

Faith equals TRUST. Abraham and others trusted God's promises were to come true, before they knew the Christ.

[johnthebaptist]

10 hours ago, Open7 said:

Im reading Romans 4:23-25. And I’m thinking, how is it that Abraham has righteousness for believing that God would give him a son?
 

People can only be saved by Jesus, including Abraham. So why was Abraham credited with righteousness because he believed God would give him a son? (Isaac).
 

And here is my own attempt at answering. This was the case because if Abraham believed God for this, by default he would also believe Jesus also.

Any thoughts?

It would seem to me Abraham was considered righteous for being willing to sacrifice his son.

[JohnD]

On 8/17/2020 at 6:31 AM, Open7 said:

Im reading Romans 4:23-25. And I’m thinking, how is it that Abraham has righteousness for believing that God would give him a son?
 

People can only be saved by Jesus, including Abraham. So why was Abraham credited with righteousness because he believed God would give him a son? (Isaac).
 

And here is my own attempt at answering. This was the case because if Abraham believed God for this, by default he would also believe Jesus also.

Any thoughts?

Friend it's always been about believing God and trusting him.

[Billiards Ball]

On 8/17/2020 at 7:31 AM, Open7 said:

Im reading Romans 4:23-25. And I’m thinking, how is it that Abraham has righteousness for believing that God would give him a son?
 

People can only be saved by Jesus, including Abraham. So why was Abraham credited with righteousness because he believed God would give him a son? (Isaac).
 

And here is my own attempt at answering. This was the case because if Abraham believed God for this, by default he would also believe Jesus also.

Any thoughts?

Jesus's Old Testament appearances are called "hierophanies".

No one has seen the Father--His voice only was heard in the New Testament.

JESUS interacted with Abraham and Abraham trusted Him for a son--a miracle, unique son, a type of Jesus as God's Son.

Both testaments are clear. People who trust God for salvation are saved, people who trust themselves for salvation are lost.

[Riverwalker]

Do you really think their faith is held less dearly than our simply because it  was based on the coming messiah and ours on the risen messiah?

[JohnD]

On 8/17/2020 at 6:31 AM, Open7 said:

Im reading Romans 4:23-25. And I’m thinking, how is it that Abraham has righteousness for believing that God would give him a son?
 

People can only be saved by Jesus, including Abraham. So why was Abraham credited with righteousness because he believed God would give him a son? (Isaac).
 

And here is my own attempt at answering. This was the case because if Abraham believed God for this, by default he would also believe Jesus also.

Any thoughts?

That's pretty good.

God held humanity accountable to the amount of his revelation to man.

The point God was driving at was belief and trust in Him.

Grace (even in the Old Testament) / the path to true salvation,  in other words.

But even then, until the cross of Christ, Abraham and those who believed God

still went to the temporary holding place (Sheol) awaiting either Christ's arrival to 

free them (Ephesians 4:8-10) or final judgment (Revelation 20:13-14). Of course those

who believed God  were in a separate chamber of comfort in Sheol than the unbelievers

who were in torment (Luke 16:19-31).

Ever since Jesus died, went to Sheol and declared the victory (1 Peter 3:18-19) and took the

captive in Abraham's Bosom to heaven (Ephesians 4:8-10) believers go directly to heaven

as disembodied spirits (2 Corinthians 5:8) and the chamber in Sheol that was once the Bosom of Abraham 

is  now empty.

 

[JohnD]

Belief / believing in Jesus is all that is required.

John 3:16-18

John 6:29

John 16:27

Ephesians 2:8-10

Paul was Saul of Tarsus rising star in the Jewish Sanhedrin

Hebrew of Hebrews, with regard to the Law... BLAMELESS...

but he counted it all dung that he may believe in Christ.

The Law cannot save. Only faith in Jesus the genuine Jesus

can and does.

This is why Paul was so jealous of the pristine Gospel versus

the counterfeit Gospels counterfeit spirits, counterfeit christs

(2 Corinthians 11:3-4 / Galatians 1:8-9) ← which may well refer to

many gospel messages being preached in the world to this very day.

Prove ALL things prove ALL THINGS PROVE ALL THINGS...

even the Spirit whether of God or not (1 John 4:1)

AND  if the Christ you believe in / hope in is the real and true Christ or not.

Here's how: