Deadworm Posted August 26, 2020 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 25 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 300 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 79 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/13/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted August 26, 2020 Believe me, all the glory goes to God. I'm indifferent to personal insults, but when the awesome work of the Holy Spirit is being disrespected I will rush to His defense. And you need to realize that even a deaf mute can be Spirit-baptized, despite an ability to articulate it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alive Posted August 26, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 22 Topic Count: 194 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 11,053 Content Per Day: 6.52 Reputation: 9,015 Days Won: 36 Joined: 09/12/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/09/1956 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Brothers and sisters. Please honor the TOS and stick to the topic and refrain from making it personal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted August 27, 2020 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.30 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted August 27, 2020 On 8/24/2020 at 10:27 PM, CaptWalker said: Why are these "charismatic" believers always saying that speaking in tongues is evidence of the "baptism of the Holy Spirit", but never mention prophesying? It is something i have been wondering about ever since i became a true Christian about 25 years ago, but for some reason just let it slide, and assumed that what "they" were saying was true. But i just can't get past what it says in 1st Corinthians 14:5 where Paul says that "he who prophesies is GREATER than he who speaks with tongues"(NKVJ)...so why then do "they" always emphasize the tongues but not the prophesying? And why should the average person/believer just take THEIR word for it?? I think “speaking in tongues” is just an ego trip for many. I think most likely they are speaking gibberish. Paul told us this: [27] If any speak in a tongue, let there be only two or at most three, and each in turn; and let one interpret. [28] But if there is no one to interpret, let each of them keep silence in church and speak to himself and to God. 1 Cor 14:27-28 RSV 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted August 30, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 772 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,943 Content Per Day: 3.06 Reputation: 1,979 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted August 30, 2020 Its difficult to understand if your church doesnt hv Holy Spirit gifts manifest. Without prophetic utterance (xenolalia) n visions (discerning spirits) manifest in church you only hv one way communication instead of dialogue, Holy Spirit use those gifts to rebuke n rebuild each member when we gather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted September 6, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 907 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,650 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,833 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted September 6, 2020 Salvation is the evidence of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. Matthew 3:11. By his sacrifice on the cross Jesus baptizes all humanity with the Holy Spirit (saved) or with fire (lost). Belief (saved) unbelief (lost). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted September 6, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.79 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted September 6, 2020 On 8/24/2020 at 10:27 PM, CaptWalker said: Why are these "charismatic" believers always saying that speaking in tongues is evidence of the "baptism of the Holy Spirit", but never mention prophesying? It is something i have been wondering about ever since i became a true Christian about 25 years ago, but for some reason just let it slide, and assumed that what "they" were saying was true. But i just can't get past what it says in 1st Corinthians 14:5 where Paul says that "he who prophesies is GREATER than he who speaks with tongues"(NKVJ)...so why then do "they" always emphasize the tongues but not the prophesying? And why should the average person/believer just take THEIR word for it?? I don't support tongues or prophesying for today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyAngeL Posted September 6, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 23 Topic Count: 155 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,464 Content Per Day: 1.02 Reputation: 8,810 Days Won: 57 Joined: 03/30/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/12/1952 Share Posted September 6, 2020 I believe we are filled with the Holy Spirit when we are saved. Speaking in tongues is a private matter between you and God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauJangles Posted September 6, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 43 Topic Count: 229 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 10,900 Content Per Day: 2.92 Reputation: 12,145 Days Won: 68 Joined: 02/13/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1954 Share Posted September 6, 2020 I have something to share with all of you that happened to me yesterday. In order to receive the entire message, please look over both posts if you would. Thank you for taking the time. God bless you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptWalker Posted September 7, 2020 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 440 Content Per Day: 0.28 Reputation: 128 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/20/1970 Author Share Posted September 7, 2020 18 hours ago, missmuffet said: I don't support tongues or prophesying for today. Well i tend to agree, as far as this being the only evidence of the "Baptism" or infilling of the Spirit. Since if it were then i believe there would be MANY more who had experienced this, than just the "Charismatics", where it is probably not even a majority with them. But i would also say that i believe these are still gifts of the Spirit that some people have and use occassionally, or when it is beneficial to others. And other times i feel God can cause miracles to happen where you may be able to understand someone who is speaking in a foreign language even when others cannot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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