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3 minutes ago, Don19 said:

Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.

 

They that belong to Christ have crucified the flesh with its passions and lusts Galatians 5:24

Is a clear description of who sincere Christians are.

It happens by the power of the Holy Spirit inside of them, He makes them righteous.

A list of rules can not make one righteous, but God showed His love for us by sending His Son to die for us,

and indwells believers with His Holy Spirit, empowering them to live righteously.

Therefore they that belong to Christ have crucified the flesh with its passions and lusts.


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5 hours ago, Peterlag said:

Oh My God... somebody gets it. Lord do you see this? Someone understands.

Thank you; but, please do not misuse the word "God".  That phrase that you started with is a worldly, casual misuse of "God".  We Christians should avoid slipping into the ways of the world.

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2 hours ago, Don19 said:

Of course they had the nature of Satan. Jesus called His disciples evil.

Luke 11:13

If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?

If Jesus' disciples, according to you, had the nature of Satan, then everything they said and did must have been evil.  The witnessing, the miracles, even following the Lord, must all have been evil...

Please, please THINK (and pray) about your interpretations of Scripture!

Luke 11:13 (KJV) If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him? 

Here is Mickelson's Enhanced Strong's Greek Dictionary's definition of the word translated "evil" here.  N.B. the word "evil" is plural here, in the Greek (see definition 8 below).

G4190 πονηρός poneros (pon-ay-ros') adj.
1. hurtful, i.e. evil
2. (figuratively) calamitous
3. (passively) ill, i.e. diseased
4. (especially, morally) culpable, i.e. derelict, vicious, atrociously wicked
5. (neuter, singular) mischief, malice
6. (neuter plural) guilt
7. (masculine, singular) the devil
8. (plural) sinners
{(properly) in effect or influence, and thus differing from G2556, which refers rather to essential character, as well as from G4550, which indicates degeneracy from original virtue}

 

As you can see, the word refers to the effect or influence upon others, rather than their essential character; and their influence is only "evil" in comparison to God's perfection, not in comparison to other people.

 

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As for the things of the Spirit of God, which the natural man cannot receive or know, here Paul is talking about the testimony or sealing of the Spirit, which was only available after Pentecost.

9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

The things of the Spirit are "the things that are freely given to us of God" - i.e., salvation through the blood of Christ. This is given by the Spirit that we might know it - that is, that we would have personal assurance of salvation.

And if you go up to verse 8, you'll see the princes of the world did not know these things - because if they had, they wouldn't have crucified the Lord of glory. But they already knew Jesus was the Christ, just as His yet-unregenerate disciples knew.

 

You are making it up as you go along.  You really need to stop it.  None of this is exegesis of Scripture; it is just you imposing your opinions upon Scripture.

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48 minutes ago, David1701 said:

If Jesus' disciples, according to you, had the nature of Satan, then everything they said and did must have been evil.  The witnessing, the miracles, even following the Lord, must all have been evil...

Please, please THINK (and pray) about your interpretations of Scripture!

Luke 11:13 (KJV) If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him? 

Here is Mickelson's Enhanced Strong's Greek Dictionary's definition of the word translated "evil" here.  N.B. the word "evil" is plural here, in the Greek (see definition 8 below).

G4190 πονηρός poneros (pon-ay-ros') adj.
1. hurtful, i.e. evil
2. (figuratively) calamitous
3. (passively) ill, i.e. diseased
4. (especially, morally) culpable, i.e. derelict, vicious, atrociously wicked
5. (neuter, singular) mischief, malice
6. (neuter plural) guilt
7. (masculine, singular) the devil
8. (plural) sinners
{(properly) in effect or influence, and thus differing from G2556, which refers rather to essential character, as well as from G4550, which indicates degeneracy from original virtue}

 

As you can see, the word refers to the effect or influence upon others, rather than their essential character; and their influence is only "evil" in comparison to God's perfection, not in comparison to other people.

There can be many shades of meaning to words. Sometimes looking closely at a word's nuanced definition can be helpful. Equally, if not more helpful, though, would be to consider the context in which a word is used. Jesus made a direct lesser-to-greater comparison between the disciples being evil and their ability to gift good gift, and the goodness of God and His gift of the Holy Spirit. Evil here is being used as the antithesis of God's character, which they (and we) are by nature.

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The witnessing, the miracles, even following the Lord, must all have been evil...

Judas did all those things, too. He was a devil, according to Jesus. But then, Judas would obviously never go on to receive the permanent indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Why? Because he wasn't chosen to salvation.

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You are making it up as you go along.  You really need to stop it.  None of this is exegesis of Scripture; it is just you imposing your opinions upon Scripture.

If you read 1 Cor 2, you'll see the things of the Spirit are the "things that are freely given to us of God" (v. 12) which "eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man" (v. 9). These are the things that we know by the Spirit. It is personal assurance of salvation that is received by the Spirit (Romans 8:16). What else would it be? That's the free gift of God! Romans 6:23.

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5 hours ago, David1701 said:

Thank you; but, please do not misuse the word "God".  That phrase that you started with is a worldly, casual misuse of "God".  We Christians should avoid slipping into the ways of the world.

You are correct but not when I use it. I select my words very carefully and I meant it. God look at this I was saying and it was not just words or a phrase. To me I was really saying in the spirit will you look at this guy.


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I believe God gave us a new nature when we are born again and that this is what the apostle Paul taught. Then where did this idea come from that we are still sinners by nature, and that the spirit of Christ makes our flesh spiritual, but still alive to sin whereby we must with much effort, frustration, and failure be in a battle with our sin nature the rest of our lives? Who taught us that it's not the spirit that has become our new nature, but that after we received Christ within, we still have the old sin nature left as we live the rest of our lives trying to restrain it? If the apostle Paul taught that we do experience a death to our old sin nature once we are baptized into Christ, and that it’s dead and gone and therefore we are dead to sin? Then where did this idea come from that we are still alive to sin? Could it have come from these guys...

The concept of the original sin was first alluded to in the second century by Irenaeus, (Bishop of Lyon) who was working for the Catholics and not for the apostle Paul. Some two hundred years later another church father who went by the name of Augustine, (Bishop of Hippo) whose writings shaped and developed the doctrine of sin as he considered that humanity shared in Adam's sin. Augustine's formulation of the original sin after the year of 412 was popular among protestant reformer's such as Martin Luther and John Calvin, who equated the original sin with a hurtful desire meaning that it persisted even after baptism and therefore completely destroyed the freedom to do good. At first Augustine, said that free will was weakened, but not destroyed by the original sin. But after the year of 412 this concept changed to a loss of free will except to sin, and it's this Augustine's concept that influenced the development of the western church and western philosophy and indirectly all of western Christianity.


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3 hours ago, Walter Goraj jr said:

"...So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin." Rom.8:25

 We have a new, "resurrected" soul upon our new birth. However, our bodies still lust after sin. Only through Christ can we receive power to overcome the infirmities of the flesh.

Is it not written in Galatians...

Walk in the spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.


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On 9/3/2020 at 12:47 PM, Peterlag said:

Romans 3:22
Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

Galatians 2:16
Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Galatians 3:22
But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.

Philippians 3:9
And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:

1 Timothy 1:14
And the grace of our Lord was exceeding abundant with faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.

1 Timothy 3:13
For they that have used the office of a deacon well purchase to themselves a good degree, and great boldness in the faith which is in Christ Jesus.

2 Timothy 1:13
Holding fast the form of sound words, which thou hast heard of me, in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.

2 Timothy 3:15
And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

We know that the biblical word “faith” means a firm persuasion, the conviction that is based upon hearing, and not upon sight or knowledge. From the context in the Bible, this word “faith” means believing, a firm confidence, trustworthiness, and certainty. I am not trying to say such words do not define the word “faith” because they do. However, when it comes to the faith of Jesus Christ, we must understand the relationship Jesus Christ has with God to have this faith. It's beyond just trusting God because of the acceptance of the new established covenant that demands obedience to God’s testimony.

Faith is not a leap in the dark, but a leap through the dark into the light. It's the intelligent acceptance of the report of a reliable witness that would persuade one to accept something as the truth in the reliability of the testimony. The faith of Jesus Christ is the relationship existing between God and Christ in the bond of the covenant between them. To recognize and acknowledge the relationship God has entered into with Christ, we must first understand that God is the originator of the covenant relationship, and God is the one who brings into being things that did not previously exist. This is His oath, His covenant, and He can be relied on to keep His part of the contract because He guarantees it, and this is His truth.

Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son who is expressing the acknowledgment of his Father’s promises and power. As I stated earlier, the faith of Jesus Christ is the relationship existing between God and Christ in the bond of the covenant between them. The faith Christ has is his faith because of his acknowledgment and acceptance of his Father’s new covenant. Thus, the “gospel of Christ” is born. This faith Jesus Christ has is solid because it's the trust Jesus Christ has with God, who brought him into this special relationship that created the bond of the new covenant between them.

We can tap into this faith by our believing and walk and live within the power of the Scriptures because we are connected to the faith of Jesus Christ. It's not our believing that makes us righteous, but the faith of Jesus Christ, whereby we not only have our standing, but also have access to the high and holy privilege that comes with that spiritual standing.

Galatians 2:20
I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

It's not how to get Christ to live within our natural realm, because the things of the spirit cannot enter the things of the flesh, and be subject to the obedience of the natural realm. But to let Christ live within, by letting our spiritually renewed mind into his spiritual world, and letting his spiritual faith function within our natural world. The “Christ in you” is the ability to walk and talk with him, doing what he would have us do rather than walking by our senses or by the dictates of any human doctrine.

We have the power within us of unlimited potential, and we can reach forth with the touch of the Master’s hand because he is in us—inside our being. And this is why wherever we are with God in Christ in us, we will have that same radiance, that same light, and that same life, which has magnified the Christ to shine. Not because of who we are, but because of what God made us to be when He created in Christ Jesus. God’s seed in us, also known as the gift of holy spirit, is our connection to God, who is the Holy Spirit. The gift of holy spirit is our power base because of our connection to Christ.

You only quote Paul's writing.  Why can't you back up what your saying with Jesus and the Apostles writings or even Moses and the Prophets?  The bibles says let truth be established by the mouth of two or more witness.

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Apostle John:

Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments. He who says, "I know Him," and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. ... Brethren, I write no new commandment to you, but an old commandment which you have had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which you heard from the beginning. - 1Jo 2:3-4, 7 NKJV

And whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do those things that are pleasing in His sight... Now he who keeps His commandments abides in Him and He in him. And by this, we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us. - 1Jo 3:22-24 NKJV

And this commandment we have from Him: that he who loves God [must] love his brother also. - 1Jo 4:21 NKJV

By this, we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and keep His commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome. - 1Jo 5:2-3 NKJV

And now I plead with you, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment to you, but that which we have had from the beginning: that we love one another. This is love, that we walk according to His commandments. This is the commandment, that as you have heard from the beginning, you should walk in it. - 2Jo 1:5-6 NKJV

James Brother of Jesus and Apostle:

But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man observing his natural face in a mirror; for he observes himself, goes away, and immediately forgets what kind of man he was. But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues [in it], and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does. - Jas 1:22-25 NKJV

If you really fulfill [the] royal law according to the Scripture, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself," you do well; but if you show partiality, you commit sin, and are convicted by the law as transgressors. For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one [point], he is guilty of all. For He who said, "Do not commit adultery," also said, "Do not murder." Now if you do not commit adultery, but you do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law. So speak and so do as those who will be judged by the law of liberty. - Jas 2:8-12 NKJV

Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. ... But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? ... Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? ... Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. - Jas 2:18, 20, 22, 24 KJV

Jesus the Messiah:

"If you love me, you will keep my commandments. ... Whoever has my commandments and keeps them, he it is who loves me. And he who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and manifest myself to him." - Jhn 14:15, 21 ESV

If you keep my commandments, you will abide in my love, just as I have kept my Father's commandments and abide in his love. - Jhn 15:10 ESV

"Teacher, which [is] the great commandment in the law?" Jesus said to him, "'You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.' "This is [the] first and great commandment. "And [the] second [is] like it: 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' "On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets." - Mat 22:36-40 NKJV

"Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. "For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. "Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches [them], he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. "For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds [the righteousness] of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven. - Mat 5:17-20 NKJV

"The law and the prophets [were] until John. Since that time the kingdom of God has been preached, and everyone is pressing into it. "And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one tittle of the law to fail. - Luk 16:16-17 NKJV

And someone came to Him and said, "Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may obtain eternal life?"... He said to him, "if you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments." - Mat 19:16-17 NASB

But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? ... And honor not his father or his mother, [he shall be free]. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition. - Mat 15:3, 6 KJV

And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition. - Mar 7:9 KJV

And one of the scribes came and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all? ... And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this [is] the first commandment. And the second [is] like, [namely] this, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these. - Mar 12:28, 30-31 KJV

Paul:

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are [these]; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told [you] in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. - Gal 5:19-21 KJV

Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. - 1Co 6:9-10 KJV

Revelation by (John)

And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. - Rev 12:17 NKJV

Here is the patience of the saints; here [are] those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus. - Rev 14:12 NKJV

Blessed [are] those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. - Rev 22:14 NKJV

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32 minutes ago, Jedi4Yahweh said:

You only quote Paul's writing.  Why can't you back up what your saying with Jesus and the Apostles writings or even Moses and the Prophets?  The bibles says let truth be established by the mouth of two or more witness.

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Apostle John:

Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments. He who says, "I know Him," and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. ... Brethren, I write no new commandment to you, but an old commandment which you have had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which you heard from the beginning. - 1Jo 2:3-4, 7 NKJV

And whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do those things that are pleasing in His sight... Now he who keeps His commandments abides in Him and He in him. And by this, we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us. - 1Jo 3:22-24 NKJV

And this commandment we have from Him: that he who loves God [must] love his brother also. - 1Jo 4:21 NKJV

By this, we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and keep His commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome. - 1Jo 5:2-3 NKJV

And now I plead with you, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment to you, but that which we have had from the beginning: that we love one another. This is love, that we walk according to His commandments. This is the commandment, that as you have heard from the beginning, you should walk in it. - 2Jo 1:5-6 NKJV

James:

But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man observing his natural face in a mirror; for he observes himself, goes away, and immediately forgets what kind of man he was. But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues [in it], and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does. - Jas 1:22-25 NKJV

If you really fulfill [the] royal law according to the Scripture, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself," you do well; but if you show partiality, you commit sin, and are convicted by the law as transgressors. For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one [point], he is guilty of all. For He who said, "Do not commit adultery," also said, "Do not murder." Now if you do not commit adultery, but you do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law. So speak and so do as those who will be judged by the law of liberty. - Jas 2:8-12 NKJV

Apostle Peter:

But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man observing his natural face in a mirror; for he observes himself, goes away, and immediately forgets what kind of man he was. But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues [in it], and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does. - Jas 1:22-25 NKJV

If you really fulfill [the] royal law according to the Scripture, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself," you do well; but if you show partiality, you commit sin, and are convicted by the law as transgressors. For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one [point], he is guilty of all. For He who said, "Do not commit adultery," also said, "Do not murder." Now if you do not commit adultery, but you do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law. So speak and so do as those who will be judged by the law of liberty. - Jas 2:8-12 NKJV

Jesus the Messiah:

"If you love me, you will keep my commandments. ... Whoever has my commandments and keeps them, he it is who loves me. And he who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and manifest myself to him." - Jhn 14:15, 21 ESV

If you keep my commandments, you will abide in my love, just as I have kept my Father's commandments and abide in his love. - Jhn 15:10 ESV

"Teacher, which [is] the great commandment in the law?" Jesus said to him, "'You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.' "This is [the] first and great commandment. "And [the] second [is] like it: 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' "On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets." - Mat 22:36-40 NKJV

"Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. "For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. "Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches [them], he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. "For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds [the righteousness] of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven. - Mat 5:17-20 NKJV

"The law and the prophets [were] until John. Since that time the kingdom of God has been preached, and everyone is pressing into it. "And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one tittle of the law to fail. - Luk 16:16-17 NKJV

And someone came to Him and said, "Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may obtain eternal life?"... He said to him, "if you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments." - Mat 19:16-17 NASB

But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? ... And honor not his father or his mother, [he shall be free]. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition. - Mat 15:3, 6 KJV

And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition. - Mar 7:9 KJV

And one of the scribes came and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all? ... And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this [is] the first commandment. And the second [is] like, [namely] this, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these. - Mar 12:28, 30-31 KJV

Paul:

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are [these]; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told [you] in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. - Gal 5:19-21 KJV

Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. - 1Co 6:9-10 KJV

I do not know why we have so many Christians who believe the entire Bible is written directly to them, the Church of God. There is nothing in the Bible to indicate such thinking, and I would like to add nothing could be further from the truth. It's true the Word of God was written for everyone for all time, and it's for our learning because it contains what everyone should know. That does not mean every part of it is addressed to everyone in this time, because the subject matter was written either to the Jews, to the Gentiles, or to the Church of God (1 Corinthians 10:32).

We will always be in darkness and confusion regarding the truth of God’s Word if we do not understand the different administrations in the Bible. All hope for our redemption is in Jesus Christ, who was born into this world, died, and in the resurrection he became the head of a new creation. The living resurrected Christ Jesus has become the one great subject that occupies the Word of God that the church belongs to. It's this Christ Jesus that is the key to the divine revelation in the Word of God for this our Grace administration. The contents of the New Testament must be understood in reference to Christ Jesus our Lord because the doctrine and nature of God for this our Grace administration are centered in His Christ.


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8 hours ago, Peterlag said:

I do not know why we have so many Christians who believe the entire Bible is written directly to them, the Church of God. There is nothing in the Bible to indicate such thinking, and I would like to add nothing could be further from the truth. It's true the Word of God was written for everyone for all time, and it's for our learning because it contains what everyone should know. That does not mean every part of it is addressed to everyone in this time, because the subject matter was written either to the Jews, to the Gentiles, or to the Church of God (1 Corinthians 10:32).

We will always be in darkness and confusion regarding the truth of God’s Word if we do not understand the different administrations in the Bible. All hope for our redemption is in Jesus Christ, who was born into this world, died, and in the resurrection he became the head of a new creation. The living resurrected Christ Jesus has become the one great subject that occupies the Word of God that the church belongs to. It's this Christ Jesus that is the key to the divine revelation in the Word of God for this our Grace administration. The contents of the New Testament must be understood in reference to Christ Jesus our Lord because the doctrine and nature of God for this our Grace administration are centered in His Christ.

That is the problem you believed the false doctrine of dispensationalism that is not taught in the bible.  You dont even live by the teaching and doctrines of Jesus and his Apostles.

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