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2 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

No debate, I haven't studied the above enough to share my thoughts.

So, how do you think 'people' will travel from far away places and across oceans to visit Jerusalem yearly? 

If there will be Humans in the state of the eternal Body in every nation, I dont think they would even need a airplane haha...if it's the normal humans as we are today, this is a future event.. and ppl from all over world fly into Juersalem every year right now. So I dont see that as any problem at all even with our current technology.


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4 minutes ago, CompletedJew said:

If there will be Humans in the state of the eternal Body in every nation, I dont think they would even need a airplane haha...if it's the normal humans as we are today, this is a future event.. and ppl from all over world fly into Juersalem every year right now. So I dont see that as any problem at all even with our current technology.

That's kind of my point. There will be flesh and blood humans in the millennium and they will exponentially multiply, if someone dies at the age of 100, they will be considered a babe. I get the impression from the language used, our modern technology is a thing of the past. With the "few" people entering the millennium, considering the skills required to pilot an aircraft, the fuel needed to be produced, refined and transported; the maintenance and repair of aircraft, etc. I don't see technology at the end of the tribulation or the millennium, do you?

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7 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

That's kind of my point. There will be flesh and blood humans in the millennium and they will exponentially multiply, if someone dies at the age of 100, they will be considered a babe. I get the impression from the language used, our modern technology is a thing of the past. With the "few" people entering the millennium, considering the skills required to pilot an aircraft, the fuel needed to be produced, refined and transported; the maintenance and repair of aircraft, etc. I don't see technology at the end of the tribulation or the millennium, do you?

An interesting thought.

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38 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

That's kind of my point. There will be flesh and blood humans in the millennium and they will exponentially multiply, if someone dies at the age of 100, they will be considered a babe. I get the impression from the language used, our modern technology is a thing of the past. With the "few" people entering the millennium, considering the skills required to pilot an aircraft, the fuel needed to be produced, refined and transported; the maintenance and repair of aircraft, etc. I don't see technology at the end of the tribulation or the millennium, do you?

End of tribulation I dont really feel so either haha, u know thats gonna be a disaster area, but in millennium yea I think that there will be probably even greater technology, I mean we will have God on earth! Imagine what He could teach us! Wow. Besides that, think of how many pilots, engineers,architects etc. who were born again in Messiah who have died, these same people will be brought back to life, so in one way I think it might be the highest technology this Earth has ever seen in that time. 

And like u said there will be non eternal living humans on this earth at that time as well, kids who are born into a world without evil, I think this maybe why ha Satan will be loosed 1 last time before this Heaven and Earth pass away, to test the ones who have never experienced evil. Very interesting stuff no doubt.


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8 hours ago, Completed Israelite said:

I agree with this, and I also know the Vail of false doctrine is upon all Christains as well, they have done exactly what Messiah warned against, they follow traditions of man, they have went after the ways of the Pharisees, for Thier traditions they break His commandments, and even a rebellious spirit is attached. 

All the same blind
ness has came upon you and Nearly all just in a lil different way, just as it did to Israel. you are now apart of Israel too don't forget. 

And yet the context is about ministering in the spirit of the New Testament that gives life rather than in the letter of the Old Testament that kills.   

2Co 3:6  Who also has made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter kills, but the spirit gives life.


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26 minutes ago, Michael37 said:

And yet the context is about ministering in the spirit of the New Testament that gives life rather than in the letter of the Old Testament that kills.   

2Co 3:6  Who also has made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter kills, but the spirit gives life.

That's why Yeshua taught us to take the Torah to the level of the Heart and Spirit. Instead of in the flesh where a man believes he has never committed adultry, but does non stop at heart. That's why they were hypocrites. It's the understanding, not The Word of God that' kills! Lol


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2 hours ago, Completed Israelite said:

That's why Yeshua taught us to take the Torah to the level of the Heart and Spirit. Instead of in the flesh where a man believes he has never committed adultry, but does non stop at heart. That's why they were hypocrites. It's the understanding, not The Word of God that' kills! Lol

I see you have amended your user name...abolished the old and established the new.

Heb 8:6-7  But now has he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.  (7)  For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.


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11 hours ago, Michael37 said:

I see you have amended your user name...abolished the old and established the new.

Heb 8:6-7  But now has he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.  (7)  For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.

Many sins were unforgivable before Messiah. And sin is the breaking of Torah 1st John 3:4.  (Name change because I felt a lot of Racism and hatred coming from certain members.)

 

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8 hours ago, Completed Israelite said:

Many sins were unforgivable before Messiah. And sin is the breaking of Torah 1st John 3:4.  (Name change because I felt a lot of Racism and hatred coming from certain members.)

 

Some more thoughts...

"He came unto His own and His own received Him not."

We all have our cross to bear. Just as Christ's Cross was severally the burden of doing His Heavenly Father's Will, the instrument of His death, and the means of our salvation, so we too do God's Will, dying daily to self-will in afflictions, trials, and tribulations, and continuing faithfully as servants and future citizens of heaven. 

Sin has always been punishable. But since Christ has taken the punishment for our sins it remains for us to have faith in Him as our Advocate.

1Jn 2:1-6  My little children, these things write I unto you, that you sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:  (2)  And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.  (3)  And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.  (4)  He that says, I know him, and keep not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.  (5)  But whoso keeps his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.  (6)  He that says he abides in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.


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45 minutes ago, Michael37 said:

Some more thoughts...

"He came unto His own and His own received Him not."

We all have our cross to bear. Just as Christ's Cross was severally the burden of doing His Heavenly Father's Will, the instrument of His death, and the means of our salvation, so we too do God's Will, dying daily to self-will in afflictions, trials, and tribulations, and continuing faithfully as servants and future citizens of heaven. 

Sin has always been punishable. But since Christ has taken the punishment for our sins it remains for us to have faith in Him as our Advocate.

1Jn 2:1-6  My little children, these things write I unto you, that you sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:  (2)  And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.  (3)  And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.  (4)  He that says, I know him, and keep not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.  (5)  But whoso keeps his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.  (6)  He that says he abides in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

I think ,maybe we all should all consider our Jobs that God gave us! The Jews, by The Holy works of Torah, are SUPPOSED to be the light of the World....AKA The Jews are supposed to have gave The Torah to The Gentiles/Nations, they failed Horribly, and they hid their light under a Bushel...

The Job of the Gentiles was to Bring The Gospel back to the Jews, To provoke them to Jealousy...the Gentiles did the exact opposite! They cut the Jews off, separated from them completely! In the time of Ignatious. Taught all thier member to be the exact opposite of them.

They failed Horribly at completing Thier Mission, Just as the Jews did.

Now the mission is to Unite the 2 into one. And it's a nearly impossible mission from my view.

But I know it WILL happen, bc it is written. Amen.

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