There be GIANTS

[Dennis1209]

12 minutes ago, teddyv said:

As to Canaan being cursed - that sounds a bit like propaganda for the Israelites as they were heading into that land to take possession.

Please allow me to answer:

Genesis 9:25 (KJV) And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.

We're talking about the person; the grandson of Noah; son of Ham, not the land.

[teddyv]

22 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

Please allow me to answer:

Genesis 9:25 (KJV) And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.

We're talking about the person; the grandson of Noah; son of Ham, not the land.

I was meaning the Canaanites, not the land.

[Dennis1209]

3 minutes ago, teddyv said:

I was meaning the Canaanites, not the land.

My mistake, sorry! That will teach me not to stick my nose into where it doesn't belong 

[teddyv]

Just now, Dennis1209 said:

My mistake, sorry! That will teach me not to stick my nose into where it doesn't belong 

No worries. I was clearly assuming I was being clear! ?

[R. Hartono]

On 10/10/2020 at 6:39 AM, Dennis1209 said:

have you ever wondered how a second incursion of Nephilim occured after the deluge? The tribes of GIANTS in the Bible [Rephaim; Zuzim; Emim: Horim; Avim and Anakim], from who and where did they come from?

The giants have perished by the Noah deluge,

Please watch this worthy youtube video explaining the origin of "giants" after the flood :

Search in Youtube page : The Origin of Giants After The Flood (lineage)

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[Speks]

One thing I've felt I should share here is how crucial it is not to stray from the covering of God's Word. Some will throw their nets far and wide reasoning in external contexts only, or too often. In some contexts this is pertinent scholarly analysis that's subservient to God's Word, but in other contexts it's a clutter that leads to unhelpful debate and speculative distractions. 

There are contexts for historical investigation and interpretation, the reading of all kinds of literature, and so on, but always under the rock solid security of Scripture. We may sift through the Apocrypha, refer to Augustine, Tanakh, Manichaean texts, etc, and dubious references to the Person of the Holy Spirit, but...

Someone early this morning reminded me of John 4:4: "Jesus answered, 'It is written: ‘Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.'" This in turn reminded me of the teaching in 2nd Timothy 3:16, 17:

"All Scripture is breathed out by God and is useful for instruction, for conviction, for correction, and for training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be complete, fully equipped for every good work." 

Scripture here is referencing what we generally call the Old Testament today. It's significant to me that under the guidance and authority of God's Holy Spirit Paul teaches that all Scripture can be used to lead us into spiritual completeness and correctness, equipping us for godly work in Christ. And we are all the more blessed having the New Testament inspired scriptures where we find the teachings of Christ preserved: 

"Anyone who goes too far and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God; the one who abides in the teaching, he has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house, and do not give him a greeting..." (2nd John 9, 10, NASB).

So as we look far and wide while sharing, let's give thanks to God that we have a perfect yardstick against which we can measure all literature, historical facts and generally all kinds of religious contexts. 

Edited October 11, 2020 by Speks

[Justin Adams]

35 minutes ago, Speks said:

Scripture here is referencing what we generally call the Old Testament today

It is broadly talking of the Septuagint (LXX) which is what Yeshua and the disciples quote from mostly. They also quote from 'the book of the giants' and 1st Enoch. The scribes at Qumran kept these writings that we can verify our scriptures from. The later Augustinian and 'church' doctrines are often wrong. In 1947 the Dead sea scrolls were discovered (Qumran) and providentially, we were relieved of the BURDEN of false teachings of roughly 1800 years. Dogma that we still reel from since our Augustinian Seminaries still teach from this false understanding.

The Tanakh is our Old Testament and includes MANY books that Jewish scholars disavowed due to Messianic content. Also Luther and the many 'defenders of the faith' removed books to keep us in the dark.

God does NOT need man to 'protect' Him and His Words. So 1947 was God poking the 'experts' in the eye; these that had shrouded His Scriptures in fear and wrong doctrines.

[Justin Adams]

8 hours ago, teddyv said:

Can you provide other examples using this euphemism. I can't recall any outside of this occurrence.

 

As to Canaan being cursed - that sounds a bit like propaganda for the Israelites as they were heading into that land to take possession. Same idea with Moab and Ammon being the children of incest also happening to be one of Israel's chief enemies through their taking and possessing of Canaan.

It was the Person that was cursed.

[Justin Adams]

8 hours ago, teddyv said:

Can you provide other examples using this euphemism

Read Leviticus.

[teddyv]

6 hours ago, Justin Adams said:

Read Leviticus.

I'm glad you were specific.