THe Official 2020 Christmas Thread(s)

[Starise]

8 minutes ago, Starise said:

Yes but at least he is continent and has most of his real teeth.

Comparing T and B....sorry to sidetrack.

[JohnD]

We claim in song and testimony "It is the day of the dear Savior's birth"

1. It cannot be proven it is the day Jesus was born
2. It is not said that it is simply be the day that we celebrate Jesus' birth
3. It is not disclosed to anyone that Christ Mass was a Roman Catholic invention to Christianize or replace the pagan winter solstice feast Saturnalia

Then come the lies about Saint Nick / Santa Claus which is an extremely blown out of proportion lie about an historic character:

Saint Nicholas was born circa 280 in Patara, Lycia, an area that is part of present-day Turkey. He lost both of his parents as a young man and reportedly used his inheritance to help the poor and sick. A devout Christian, he later served as bishop of Myra, a city that is now called Demre.

Edited November 13, 2020 by JohnD

[Henry_iain]

43 minutes ago, Alive said:

What is the purpose of the thread or what are you wanting to accomplish?

Or perhaps to put it another way--what is the motivation for starting this thread?

I am guessing here and not answering for the OP, But, I think one should rather ask what it could become. It is mostly meant for fun, but I think, if handled properly, it can be a great place for find memories and the sharing of good news stories that we all need right now. 

We do make jokes, but that is just what they are. Humour. And no names were mentioned so it is not aimed at being nasty. 

[Alive]

3 minutes ago, Henry_iain said:

I am guessing here and not answering for the OP, But, I think one should rather ask what it could become. It is mostly meant for fun, but I think, if handled properly, it can be a great place for find memories and the sharing of good news stories that we all need right now. 

We do make jokes, but that is just what they are. Humour. And no names were mentioned so it is not aimed at being nasty. 

I don't know the motivation either. I wanted the OP to ask himself that question. I am however absolutely certain what this thread will produce.

[Alive]

1 minute ago, Chicken coop2 said:

Some who attack most likely have empty and sad lives and need our prayers. 

ANd here it starts--this member just cast a bunch of other members and fellow members of the Body of Christ into a bad light.

[JohnD]

John 1:14 (AV)
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

The Hebrew for dwelt among us is "tabernacled" among us. This may very well suggest that Jesus was born during the Feast of Tabernacles (in keeping with his prophetic fulfillments of the feasts of Judaism).

It would be earlier in the year and much more in align with the description of Luke chapter 2 as to the season in which the shepherds would be out in the fields watching over their flocks by night. December would be too cold and rainy.

[Henry_iain]

I do not particularly worry much about what people are going to argue here, not because I want to belittle them but because i do not share their views and the arguments they use do not convince me. I do not see the point in going over them year after year. So I am going to say just once that, with all due respect, I will not be engaging in debate about this. my purpose will be to be positive, enjoy the fellowship and to bring upliftment to those who need it. I understand that some do not like this celebration, but that is their choice. I repeat. I will not have my memories of amazing times with my family be tarnished with suspicions that we were somehow doing something wrong. My dad is an experienced reformed theologian and he has been celebrating Christmas all his life. I trust him. 

and that is enough of that. back to the fun.

[JohnD]

7 minutes ago, Alive said:

ANd here it starts--this member just cast a bunch of other members and fellow members of the Body of Christ into a bad light.

I answered him and an accomplice of his in other threads and you will note he has weaponized his alleged reactions of prayer for me which this statement affirms:

7 minutes ago, Alive said:

7 minutes ago, Chicken coop2 said:

Some who attack most likely have empty and sad lives and need our prayers. 

Just ignore it. I do (did until you mentioned this, Alive. This is just FYI

Edited November 13, 2020 by JohnD

[JohnD]

3 minutes ago, Henry_iain said:

I do not particularly worry much about what people are going to argue here, not because I want to belittle them but because i do not share their views and the arguments they use do not convince me. I do not see the point in going over them year after year. So I am going to say just once that, with all due respect, I will not be engaging in debate about this. my purpose will be to be positive, enjoy the fellowship and to bring upliftment to those who need it. I understand that some do not like this celebration, but that is their choice. I repeat. I will not have my memories of amazing times with my family be tarnished with suspicions that we were somehow doing something wrong. My dad is an experienced reformed theologian and he has been celebrating Christmas all his life. I trust him. 

and that is enough of that. back to the fun.

I respect your feelings.

But I have to say that equating the Truth (Jesus Christ) with untruth like the tradition of Christ Mass... nothing good can come of it.

If it were even celebrated as the day we celebrate the birth of Jesus (regardless of what day of the year it actually occurred) then a removal of all lies like Santa Clause and the pagan symbols like Yule Logs, mistletoe, even decorated trees (whether or not we realize or acknowledge  or believe it) is as  a pagan alter in our homes Churches businesses.

Manger scene only.

No booze parties at work or elsewhere no exchange of gifts. Just celebrate Jesus birth.

 

[JohnD]

3 minutes ago, Chicken coop2 said:

Well I have a very empty and sad life filled with all kinds of unbearable pain and nightmares from my earliest memories and started praying to God every night from the age of 9 to kill me.

I appreciate any prayers I can get.

I still would be happy to go as soon as possible, but after a failed suicide attempt about which I have posted about at this site, I do my best to endure one day at a time and focus on the kingdom of God. 

I was almost dead when the rope broke.  I know God broke it. There is no other explanation. 

 

I am sorry to hear all of this.

I am praying for you, Coop.