why do Islamists hate the west?

[Scarletprayers]

I don't support the terrorists, but if I were a religious zealot, and I looked over at North America and saw the way society prostitutes itself, I would have to assertain that yes, (North) America is at least under the influence of the great satan.

I don't admire the way muslims do things but I do admire their zeal. 

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Gerioke as weird as it sounds, I have to agree! I wish we were as zealous, but with "LOVE" we have so many that are, or seem to be anyway, but don't seem to be trying to spread that zeal with anything but hate and a better than thou attitude.

[Gerioke]

I don't support the terrorists, but if I were a religious zealot, and I looked over at North America and saw the way society prostitutes itself, I would have to assertain that yes, (North) America is at least under the influence of the great satan.

I don't admire the way muslims do things but I do admire their zeal.

[Scarletprayers]

I don't support the terrorists, but if I were a religious zealot, and I looked over at North America and saw the way society prostitutes itself, I would have to assertain that yes, (North) America is at least under the influence of the great satan.

I don't admire the way muslims do things but I do admire their zeal.

[nebula]

I don't support the terrorists, but if I were a religious zealot, and I looked over at North America and saw the way society prostitutes itself, I would have to assertain that yes, (North) America is at least under the influence of the great satan.

I don't admire the way muslims do things but I do admire their zeal. 

To say that they are envious of the states just shows the arrogance that the rest of the world sees in America.    

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I'm not happy with the evil in our society either - but dealing with it through mass-scale murder and praising Allah for victory?

[Gerioke]

I don't support the terrorists, but if I were a religious zealot, and I looked over at North America and saw the way society prostitutes itself, I would have to assertain that yes, (North) America is at least under the influence of the great satan.

I don't admire the way muslims do things but I do admire their zeal.

[Scarletprayers]

Neb, I was in no way saying I believe in killing or anything. I was just saying we need to be more zealous but do it with the love that Jesus showed to us!

[Guest shiloh357]

I found this written on another board:

They hate us because:

1) Those resources we use, abuse, and waste, are stolen from the people who used to own them. Our big corporations essentially purchased the aid of governments throughout the world, allowing us to impoverish other nations while we in America get the benefit.

2) The culture of commercialism that is dominant in America, in a very real sense, destroys our souls, and when we spread it, it destroys other people's souls as well.

3) The American people are completely unwilling to do anything about this, even in cases when they know that it's true.

Read any of the accounts that the early Western explorers give of the people they encountered in the Middle East, Africa, Oceania, Southeast Asia, etc. You will not find a single account of a group of people living in a cardboard shack with open sewage in the streets, eating stewed rats, and working 15 hours a day at the docks or the mines or the sweatshops for 10 cents a day. You won't find account of thousands and thousand of children starving every day, or dying of dysentary, or of people so devoid of any hope that all their joy in life is gone. This is what the west has brought to much of the rest of the world, all so that the top 5% of the world population could afford to have a coke and a smile. Western development benefits only a few people, while the rest suffer unimaginably.

That, sir, is why they hate America.

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None of that justifies terrorism. Besides if they don't like our commercialism, then they can leave our country and stop sending immigrants over here. They know where the door is. They can leave anytime they get tired of being corrupted by us.

Read any of the accounts that the early Western explorers give of the people they encountered in the Middle East, Africa, Oceania, Southeast Asia, etc. You will not find a single account of a group of people living in a cardboard shack with open sewage in the streets, eating stewed rats, and working 15 hours a day at the docks or the mines or the sweatshops for 10 cents a day. You won't find account of thousands and thousand of children starving every day, or dying of dysentary, or of people so devoid of any hope that all their joy in life is gone. This is what the west has brought to much of the rest of the world, all so that the top 5% of the world population could afford to have a coke and a smile. Western development benefits only a few people, while the rest suffer unimaginably.

They have Islam to thank for that. It is not the West that put them in this condition. Look at the countries where Islam is the chief religion. They are the poorest as far as the common people are concerned. Any aid that is given by the US, is used to line the pockets of the dictators. Arab governments are brutal to their own people.

Saudi Arabia is probably one of the richest if not the richest countries in the world. But you would not know that by how the rest of Islam lives. When the Tsunami hit, Saudi Arabia, which is swimming in Billions upon billions in oil revenue was giving the least to the victims. They gave less than the US but criticized the the US about being stingy. Yasir Arafat sat on 1.3 billion dollars. That was money that was given to him as aid to give relief to his people. Instead he kept it his own private bank accounts while letting his people starve.

Frankly, I think the US ought to stop giving aid to everyone. I think we ought to just let some of these countries who hate us but always have their hand out, try to exist without us. I am so tired of these whiners complaining about us, but still standing there at the trough with their hands out wanting our money. Just cut them off.

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But ted, thats the fun of living in the country you can spit on it, defame it, lie about it and still make a buck!

Boy, you said a mouthful, sister. Amen.

Try being a Saudi citizen and doing the same there. You'd quickly end up imprisoned or worse.

America. She isn't perfect, far from it, but I'm very proud of her and am glad to be a citizen.

[Scarletprayers]

But ted, thats the fun of living in the country you can spit on it, defame it, lie about it and still make a buck!

Boy, you said a mouthful, sister. Amen.

Try being a Saudi citizen and doing the same there. You'd quickly end up imprisoned or worse.

America. She isn't perfect, far from it, but I'm very proud of her and am glad to be a citizen.

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Thanks WIP, as for going to Saudi Arabia thanks but no thanks I'll stay RIGHT here!

[dgolvach]

Like I said in the beggining of this post...PURE ENVY!. An age old human condition expressing itself through a crazed religion.

Dan