Tap and go credit cards

[The_Patriot21]

people have been using that exact same technology to pay for items using their phones a long time ago....so I would say its not really anything new here...

[Marathoner]

Credit cards --- yep. The end was near when those made their debut. Mark of the Beast and all of that. 

I remember when the mark of the Beast was the Universal Product Code. Those scanners at the checkout line were Beast system technology!

No, wait... it was vaccines. Yeah, those were the mark of the Beast, a sure sign the end draws nigh. 

88 reasons for 1988? 

People have believed the end was nigh for longer than any of us have been alive. It's interesting to note that all of this technology is conspicuously absent from the scriptures. I'm in agreement with @teddyv... the mark has been with us for a very long time. 

It appears this topic is better suited for the eschatology forum. 

[missmuffet]

16 hours ago, Dennis1209 said:

Well, as a pretribulation believer; if I'm seeing all the prophetic signs we are to watch for as the tribulation draws nigh. And they are shaping up faster than anyone can keep up with. Then how much closer is our redemption? 

I don't know but God does. 

[missmuffet]

14 hours ago, The_Patriot21 said:

people have been using that exact same technology to pay for items using their phones a long time ago....so I would say its not really anything new here...

I have never had a smart phone so I would not know about that. This is new for me. 

[enoob57]

3 hours ago, missmuffet said:

I have never had a smart phone so I would not know about that. This is new for me. 

they say confession is good for the soul 

[Starise]

Credit cards first had embedded chips probably 10 years ago in the UK. The US has followed suit probably within the last 5 years due to the need to help prevent identity theft. I have an embedded chip entry card for my job. We once had magnetic stripe cards and they replaced them. Now I can simply hold my wallet up to the reader ( or if creative I can put my butt up against the reader) and unlock the door. You really don't need a card as you can get little dongles or use your smart phone to buy things. All this does is tie your bank account to the device.

RFID chips are those little stickers they hide in products. They are what sets the alarm off if you go through without paying, or accidentally bring something through. 

RFID chips are going to better encryption now since it was discovered you could bring a little receiver along in a briefcase and "read" the chip of a passer by. You usually still need a 4 digit code which is why they started putting covers over the debit keys. If you see a guy with binoculars looking at the gas pumps beware. Or someone trying to peek over your shoulder at the store checkout. HIDE YOUR CODE.

I deposited a check the other day with my smart phone using an app. Pretty cool actually. Saved me a trip to the bank and some time.

I tend to use this tech. I'll probably continue unless some Draconian rules are applied to it or they take it away because I'm a political prisoner ( God forbid but you never know what the future holds). 

 

[Marathoner]

1 hour ago, Starise said:

Credit cards first had embedded chips probably 10 years ago in the UK. The US has followed suit probably within the last 5 years due to the need to help prevent identity theft. I have an embedded chip entry card for my job. We once had magnetic stripe cards and they replaced them. Now I can simply hold my wallet up to the reader ( or if creative I can put my butt up against the reader) and unlock the door. You really don't need a card as you can get little dongles or use your smart phone to buy things. All this does is tie your bank account to the device.

I didn't have the heart to react to your entire post with laughter so know that I am laughing heartily on account of the underlined. Ah, the stories I could tell from my time working security for a defense contractor...

Like the occasion when some employees of an Israeli company showed up for a meeting with the bigwigs. Being the first line of defense it fell upon me to review their credentials and vet them prior to admission to the sprawling facility. After the seventh iteration of the name "Door Prize" I knew something was amiss. Door Priz was the first... Drar Priz was the second... Dor Pirze the third... you get it by now, I am sure. "If you'll excuse me for a moment, gentlemen, while I acquire visitor badges for you all..." was my exit to contact the Program manager in charge of security. 

After I informed him of the bogus names he laughed and said, "Oh yeah, it's those guys. Let 'em in and don't worry about it." Mmhm. 

Let's just say that some employees could be rather inventive about the way they were supposed to present their credentials and leave it at that... I have veered off topic far enough. 

 

Edited January 10, 2021 by Marathoner

[Starise]

18 minutes ago, Marathoner said:

I didn't have the heart to react to your entire post with laughter so know that I am laughing heartily on account of the underlined. Ah, the stories I could tell from my time working security for a defense contractor...

Like the occasion when some employees of an Israeli company showed up for a meeting with the bigwigs. Being the first line of defense it fell upon me to review their credentials and vet them prior to admission to the sprawling facility. After the seventh iteration of the name "Door Prize" I knew something was amiss. Door Priz was the first... Drar Priz was the second... Dor Pirze the third... you get it by now, I am sure. "If you'll excuse me for a moment, gentlemen, while I acquire visitor badges for you all..." was my exit to contact the Program manager in charge of security. 

After I informed him of the bogus names he laughed and said, "Oh yeah, it's those guys. Let 'em in and don't worry about it." Mmhm. 

Let's just say that some employees could be rather inventive about the way they were supposed to present their credentials and leave it at that... I have veered off topic far enough. 

 

Interesting Marathoner. I work for a place that has their own security people. The main buildings have card readers. Only a very few areas are off limits to me. Mainly accounting and human resources. The rest I can access. I haven't tried all the buildings at night. I might have to make a call to get in then. I still carry keys for inner rooms. I believe the new cards have schedules which would make sense. Cameras are everywhere. The good ones that can see a pimple on your nose from a half mile away. Yet some funny things have happened. A mechanical room door that didn't lock allowed a homeless man to spend the night in a warm place for awhile. One retired guy was still coming around to hang out in a lobby. We monitor roof hatches because we've had people jump once or twice. I would have to report that I'm going on the roof so they know what the alarm is. Due to COVID that place is mostly a ghost town right now.

[warrior12]

23 hours ago, The_Patriot21 said:

people have been using that exact same technology to pay for items using their phones a long time ago....so I would say its not really anything new here...

 True .  Here are some newer ones in play now.  The smart phones now incorporate some of the functions below.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biometrics

Biometrics are body measurements and calculations related to human characteristics. Biometrics authentication (or realistic authentication) is used in computer science as a form of identification and access control. It is also used to identify individuals in groups that are under surveillance.

Biometric identifiers are the distinctive, measurable characteristics used to label and describe individuals. Biometric identifiers are often categorized as physiological versus behavioral characteristics. Physiological characteristics are related to the shape of the body. Examples include, but are not limited to fingerprint, palm veins, face recognition, DNA, palm print,hand geometry, iris recognition, retina and odour/scent. Behavioral characteristics are related to the pattern of behavior of a person, including but not limited to typing rhythm, gait,keystroke, signature, behavioral profiling, and voice. Some researchers have coined the term behaviometrics to describe the latter class of biometrics.^[1]

Edited January 11, 2021 by warrior12

[The_Patriot21]

1 hour ago, warrior12 said:

 True .  Here are some newer ones in play now.  The smart phones now incorporate some of the functions below.

Biometrics are body measurements and calculations related to human characteristics. Biometrics authentication (or realistic authentication) is used in computer science as a form of identification and access control. It is also used to identify individuals in groups that are under surveillance.

Biometric identifiers are the distinctive, measurable characteristics used to label and describe individuals. Biometric identifiers are often categorized as physiological versus behavioral characteristics. Physiological characteristics are related to the shape of the body. Examples include, but are not limited to fingerprint, palm veins, face recognition, DNA, palm print,hand geometry, iris recognition, retina and odour/scent. Behavioral characteristics are related to the pattern of behavior of a person, including but not limited to typing rhythm, gait,keystroke, signature, behavioral profiling, and voice. Some researchers have coined the term behaviometrics to describe the latter class of biometrics.^[1]

Indeed my phone has a biometric lock...it uses my fingerprint to lock/unlock and i use it. Its a very useful feature, it keeps my 2 year old from calling china lol