What Caused the Big Bang?

[dad2]

1 hour ago, BeyondET said:

a denomination or a nation what’s the difference?.

Is there a alternative like buying a remote island to not be a part of anything because it seems those sort of things happens everywhere no matter what a person is part of.

If a business we worked for was found to be responsible for thousands of children's deaths and secret burial and abuse the alternatives would be to work somewhere else and not be a part of that. When an outfit commits atrocities under the banner of a cross, in Jesus' name,  that is different than a nation doing it.

[JohnD]

11 hours ago, SIC said:

This is the reason I gave up on the Big Bang Theory and accepted the bible. Something came out of literally nothing. Really?

The actual Big Bang Theory has no merit to it. I just refer to it for argument's sake.

What the Bible describes is a much larger creation (from nothing) all at once and then put into expansion / motion.

There were some developmental stages (see Genesis 1 and 2) but in periods no longer than a twenty four hour period each (which prompted the 24 hour cycle of resonance / rhythm we know as our days). ← people only assume it was the other way around. 

Adam is the perfect example of this type of creation. He was created as a full grown man on day one. The universe was a fully functioning universe on day one. The age imposed upon it is the imagination of man of how long it would have taken to have started from an infinitesimally small point in space. ← but it didn't do that.

Another point of order is giving evidence of a Creator God... the very fact that anyone or anything exists. The 1st and 2nd laws (not theories like evolution but actual laws) of thermodynamics militate against the possibility of anything existing.

#2 maximum entropy / order to disorder means nothing can be eternal

#1 absolute conservation / from nothing nothing comes

Ergo an intelligent personal being who is eternal and who transcends the laws of physics created all things from nothing with design and purpose.

Disbelievers will whine and argue and flap their wings and pee their pants and go running home to mommy... but they cannot argue honestly / earnestly against this logic.

[BeyondET]

14 hours ago, dad2 said:

If a business we worked for was found to be responsible for thousands of children's deaths and secret burial and abuse the alternatives would be to work somewhere else and not be a part of that. When an outfit commits atrocities under the banner of a cross, in Jesus' name,  that is different than a nation doing it.

not much different like weighing apples and oranges

Edited July 7, 2021 by BeyondET

[dad2]

54 minutes ago, BeyondET said:

not much different like weighing apples and oranges

I prefer murderers to be in the open and not under the cover of saints, thanks.

[BeyondET]

6 hours ago, dad2 said:

I prefer murderers to be in the open and not under the cover of saints, thanks.

What would be your response to a murderer in the open

[dad2]

32 minutes ago, BeyondET said:

What would be your response to a murderer in the open

The important thing would be that we would see see the wolf and fangs, rather than some innocent granny in a bed. (to paraphrase a fairy tale)

[BeyondET]

5 minutes ago, dad2 said:

The important thing would be that we would see see the wolf and fangs, rather than some innocent granny in a bed. (to paraphrase a fairy tale)

Fair enough 

[Leonardo Von]

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What Caused the Big Bang?

The Big Bang is an preposterous theory. How can it be feasible that "nothing" can explode and, from this explosion, arouse a big universe so organized?

We well know that an explosion produces chaos.

[teddyv]

On 7/18/2021 at 10:35 AM, Leonardo Von said:

The Big Bang is an preposterous theory. How can it be feasible that "nothing" can explode and, from this explosion, arouse a big universe so organized?

We well know that an explosion produces chaos.

Not really. It was not an explosion as we often think of them (fuel-based). Big Bang theory actually dovetails very nicely with a Biblical view since it implies a beginning. The theory does not implicate God of course, but that's philosophical. BB theory was first postulated by a Christian astronomer as well.

[The Barbarian]

On 4/28/2021 at 4:48 PM, Charlie744 said:

But regarding your response to my question (not a serious one) whether anyone can hear the "big bang"..... you responded in the affirmative....... but John, don't you need air for sound?

"Big Bang" was actually the attempt by an atheist (Fred Hoyle) to make fun of the theory (which was proposed by a Catholic Priest who was a physicist), apparently, because Hoyle was offended by the idea of a beginning of the universe, which suggested a creation.