Saved by fire

[Thomas V]

1 Corinthians 3:10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
3:12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for The Day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
3:14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

I am looking for opinions on the interpretation of this passage. Is this passage, specifically starting at 3:13, in reference to a man who is redeemed or is it in reference to a man who has yet to be redeemed?

[Not me]

4 hours ago, Thomas V said:

1 Corinthians 3:10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
3:12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for The Day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
3:14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

I am looking for opinions on the interpretation of this passage. Is this passage, specifically starting at 3:13, in reference to a man who is redeemed or is it in reference to a man who has yet to be redeemed?

 

I am of the thought that it is addressing those who are redeemed and are building on the foundation that is Christ.. And in their building, as whether, as a Mary or a Martha.. Both are His and loved by Him, but one choose the good part..

(my thinks)

A fellow believer, Not me 

[Hopefully]

Here it is in the version I use.

“We are workers together for God, and you are like a farm that belongs to God. And you are a house that belongs to God. Like an expert builder I built the foundation of that house. I used the gift that God gave me to do this. Other people are building on that foundation. But everyone should be careful how they build. The foundation that has already been built is Jesus Christ, and no one can build any other foundation. People can build on that foundation using gold, silver, jewels, wood, grass, or straw. But the work that each person does will be clearly seen, because the Day will make it plain. That Day will appear with fire, and the fire will test everyone’s work. If the building they put on the foundation still stands, they will get their reward. But if their building is burned up, they will suffer loss. They will be saved, but it will be like someone escaping from a fire.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭3:9-15‬ ‭

[enoob57]

5 hours ago, Thomas V said:

1 Corinthians 3:10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
3:12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for The Day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
3:14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

I am looking for opinions on the interpretation of this passage. Is this passage, specifically starting at 3:13, in reference to a man who is redeemed or is it in reference to a man who has yet to be redeemed?

 

This, in my opinion, is one of the most consistently misinterpreted passages in the Bible... It is speaking of the Judgment Seat of Christ as there is no other event in God's calendar where rewards are presented individually. 
 

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1 Corinthians 3:10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

The foundation of the Church is God's Word, Scripture, and the indwelling Holy Spirit; Upon which God has taken an objective written format with the Infusion of Himself God The Holy Spirit and made living Oracles within each of His Children... thus His Word instructs us on how to build upon what Christ our Lord has started and we are to do so with great care for we shall be examined on this very thing spoken of here!

 

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3:12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for The Day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

Almost all address this as gold, silver, precious stones as lasting works and the wood, hay, stubble as works that will be burned up- however- I believe this to be error for one must first contextualize where this event is taking place and what fire are we seeing being used here. For the phrase 'The Day shall declare it' is pin pointing this consideration to the reader. The Judgement Seat of Christ will occur in Heaven prior the Marriage Supper of The Lamb. As The Bride will be spotless for The Son...
and this the purpose of The Judgment Seat of Our Lord thus we move now to the fire. 

It is the purifying aspect whereby sin and the garment, Jude 23, next to the sin will burn up:
One can understand this as what God is not keeping for the eternal future of us all...  
1 Peter 1:7
7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:
KJV
thus the fire God is using will in fact burn up everything on that list 'gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble ' and this purification of God for the eternal state is listed here
 

Rev 20:11-21:5

11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

21 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
KJV

even the knowledge of it's existence in any form will be removed from this eternal state:
 

Isa 65:17

17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.
KJV
 

1 Cor 13:8

8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
KJV

So existence in any form of this cannot be connected to bottom line of works unto God... You will naturally say how can I do anything then for all I do is with that which passes away (physically)... that is why it is written
John 6:63

63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
KJV
Our total dependence upon what we do 'IS' reliant upon The Holy Spirit and Written Word divorcing all that is not being kept from consideration.... 

[missmuffet]

It all has to do with what we do for Christ when we are in these bodies on earth. Some will receive many rewards while others will barely make it to heaven. 

[steve morrow]

SAVED  BY  FIRE  ---  OPINIONS???  WHY  WHEN  WE  ARE  SAVED  BY  TRUTH

JOHN 5:34  But I receive not testimony from man but these things  --I  SAY-- that you might be saved 

 

2 THESSALONIANS 1:7  and to you who are troubled rest with us when  THE  LORD  JESUS  shall be revealed from heaven with  HIS mighty angels  

--1:8--IN  FLAMING  FIRE-- taking vengeance on them that know not  GOD  and that --OBEY  NOT  THE  GOSPEL  OF  OUR  LORD  JESUS  CHRIST 

 

JEREMIAH 5:14  WHEREFORE  THUS  SAITH  THE  LORD  GOD  OF  HOSTS  BECAUSE  YOU  SPEAK  THIS  WORD  BEHOLD  ---- I  WILL  MAKE  MY  WORDS  IN  THY  MOUTH  FIRE  AND  THIS  PEOPLE  WOOD  AND  IT  SHALL  DEVOUR  THEM

PSALM 104:4  WHO  MAKETH  HIS  ANGELS  SPIRITS  HIS  MINISTERS  A  FLAMING  FIRE 

JEREMIAH 23:29  IS  NOT  MY  WORD  LIKE  AS  A  FIRE  SAITH  THE  LORD  AND  LIKE  A  HAMMER  THAT  BREAKETH  ROCK  IN  PIECES  

 

LUKE 1:2  even as they delivered them unto us which from the beginning were eyewitnesses ---AND  MINISTERS  OF  THE  WORD

PSALM 103:21  bless you  THE  LORD  all you  HIS  hosts you ministers of  ---HIS  THAT  DO   HIS  PLEASURE---

 

*******PSALM 149:9  TO  EXCECUTE  UPON  THEM  THE  JUDGEMENT  WRITTEN  --THIS  HONOR  HAVE  ALL  HIS  SAINTS--- PRAISE  YOU  THE  LORD*******

 

LOVING  THE  LORD  JESUS  CHRIST  

 

 

 

[Sower]

On 2/13/2021 at 5:30 AM, Thomas V said:

1 Corinthians 3:10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise master builder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
3:12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for The Day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
3:14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

I am looking for opinions on the interpretation of this passage. Is this passage, specifically starting at 3:13, in reference to a man who is redeemed or is it in reference to a man who has yet to be redeemed?

 

Quote Thomas,
"in reference to a man who is redeemed or is it in reference to a man who has yet to be redeemed?"

3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
3:12 Now if any man build upon this foundation

I have always believed this refers to those who's foundation is, the cornerstone, stumbling block, which is Jesus Christ.
 Paul is talking to those new believers in Christ still on the milk.
 
Not concerning     3:13 Every man's work

John 15 explains that we as branches must  abide (in the true vine) to bear fruit, that it is not of our selves that produce fruit, but the vine, Jesus.
"Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine;
no more can ye, except ye abide in me"
I try to keep my head on the Lord, trying to 'receive instructions' throughout my day, that He would work through me.

My understanding;
When I abide my mind is on how this day can the spirit of God work through me. (not I, but Christ)
I have to continue to remind myself of this, it is not a complete habit, living in this flesh. If I come up with an idea of a deed to do, without acknowledging God and use my own understanding, the motive I use can/may deceive me, even though it may be a 'good' work, it is may be for 'my own' glory, admitting to myself later the deed was done to be seen (recognized for that pat on the back). Possibly a really good work helping others, but only wood hay or stubble, easily burned up. I did it, my work, my glory. Often it really is difficult to remove 'self' from a deed I want to do, so I acknowledge God and press on.
Should I be abiding, or simply having my daily conversations with God working, conversing or whatever, but aware of God with me, and I see a little deed to do in my shop maybe that would bless a stranger,  and feel that moving and take on the task, unseen and receiving no recognition, this would be, to me, a little gold nugget, for the Lords good pleasure. Gold does not burn.
The defining thought is 'why' do I do anything, as in just what is my motivation for doing it. This comes up often even here on this forum, in my thoughts if the flesh isn't running things, as to why am I replying to some one. To edify or to embarrass. To help and lift up the Lord, or to lift up my self...   God is not mocked.
“Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows.”  Galatians 6:7
The thing is, He is not fooled........  

"for The Day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is."

These gold nuggets belong to the Lord, to be returned. Some day ............ 

 

[TheBlade]

On 2/13/2021 at 11:45 AM, missmuffet said:

It all has to do with what we do for Christ when we are in these bodies on earth. Some will receive many rewards while others will barely make it to heaven. 

Simple yet this is what it means. Nothing what so ever to do with salvation. May things we do are good and nice but for me if HE is not part of it there is no life in it and its in vain. I think of Heaven.. everything He made (not part of sin) all worships Him. Every song, music is about for Him. I don't about you but.. there is NOTHING else I want to sing about praise.. sing to.. its just.. in me