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Hmmmm...so what your saying is we are hypocrites full of hatred because we think sucking the brains out of a baby and washing it's remains down the clinic drain at a rate of 3 million per year is not very Christian. Oh...but somehow its Christian and upright to just sit back and do nothing about it even if you are fully aware that this practice is the work of the Devil.

Yeah, don't you get it?

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I wish we could get a show of hands from all of the pro-choice crowd who are happy that they made it to this side of the birth canal. Are you happy that your parents didn't sacrafice you to the God of convenience? And you have the nerve to label pro-lifers as hypocrites?

Children are not choices. They are human beings. The most innocent amongst us.

How did so many come to swallow the abortion coolaid? God help us!

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I wish we could get a show of hands from all of the pro-choice crowd who are happy that they made it to this side of the birth canal. (snip)

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Here are a couple testimonies of abortion survivors whose moms had been pro-choice/abortion and changed their pov after their babies survived the abortion...

Twins -- one aborted, one survives!

Sarah tells her story . . .

"Twenty-nine years ago, my mother decided to have an abortion. At the time, she was pregnant with twins, but nobody knew this, not even her doctor. My tiny brother and I were both there growing in her womb, until that dreadful day. Before the abortion, we were both alive. Moments later, I was alone.

It's frightening to think I was almost aborted when my mom had a D&C abortion. Somehow, miraculously, I survived! My twin brother wasn't so lucky. Andrew was aborted and we lost him forever.

Several weeks later, my mother was shocked to feel me kicking in her womb. She already had five children and she knew what it felt like when a baby kicked in the womb. She instantly knew that somehow she was still pregnant. She went back to the doctor and told him she was still pregnant...that she had made a big mistake and that she wanted to keep this baby.

To this day, my mother deeply regrets that abortion. I know the pain is unbearable for her at times when she looks at me and knows she aborted my twin brother. Mom says 'the protective hand of Almighty God saved my life . . . that God's hand covered and hid me in her womb, and protected me from the scalpel of death.

After surviving the abortion, I was born with bilateral, congenital dislocated hips and many other physical handicaps. Nine days after I was born, I was taken to an orthopedic surgeon who applied a cast to each of my tiny legs. My mom would remove these casts with pliers every Monday morning and take me to the doctor to have new casts put on.

At six weeks I was put into my first body cast. Many surgeries and body cast followed over the next few years. Unfortunately, doctors are telling me that now I'll need surgeries about every 5 years (please pray for me).

Today, I thank God I survived the abortion, but the pain continues for everyone in my family. In memory of my brother Andrew, we bought a memorial gravestone and placed it in a cemetary in Southern California. It reads:

ANDREW JAMES SMITH, TWIN BROTHER OF SARAH -- IN OUR HEARTS YOU'LL ALWAYS BE ALIVE -- NOVEMBER 1970

Please share our story with others so the tragedy of abortion stops hurting babies and families. Everyone needs to know the truth about abortion. Thank you."

--Sarah Smith

Testimony of abortion survivor Gianna Jessen before the Constitution Subcommittee of the House Judiciary Committee on April 22, 1996.

My name is Gianna Jessen. I am 19 years of age. I am originally from California, but now reside in Franklin, Tennessee. I am adopted. I have cerebral palsy. My biological mother was 17 years old and seven and one-half months pregnant when she made the decision to have a saline abortion. I am the person she aborted. I lived instead of died.

Fortunately for me the abortionist was not in the clinic when I arrived alive, instead of dead, at 6:00 a.m. on the morning of April 6, 1977. I was early, my death was not expected to be seen until about 9 a.m., when he would probably be arriving for his office hours. I am sure I would not be here today if the abortionist would have been in the clinic as his job is to take life, not sustain it. Some have said I am a "botched abortion", a result of a job not well done.

There were many witnesses to my entry into this world. My biological mother and other young girls in the clinic, who also awaited the death of their babies, were the first to greet me. I am told this was a hysterical moment. Next was a staff nurse who apparently called emergency medical services and had me transferred to a hospital.

I remained in the hospital for almost three months. There was not much hope for me in the beginning. I weighed only two pounds. Today, babies smaller than I was have survived.

A doctor once said I had a great will to live and that I fought for my life. I eventually was able to leave the hospital and be placed in foster care. I was diagnosed with cerebral palsy as a result of the abortion.

My foster mother was told that it was doubtful that I would ever crawl or walk. I could not sit up independently. Through the prayers and dedication of my foster mother, and later many other people, I eventually learned to sit up, crawl, then stand. I walked with leg braces and a walker shortly before I turned age four. I was legally adopted by my foster mother's daughter, Diana De Paul, a few months after I began to walk. The Department of Social Services would not release me any earlier for adoption.

I have continued in physical therapy for my disability, and after a total of four surgeries, I can now walk without assistance. It is not always easy. Sometimes I fall, but I have learned how to fall gracefully after falling 19 years.

I am happy to be alive. I almost died. Every day I thank God for life. I do not consider myself a by-product of conception, a clump of tissue, or any other of the titles given to a child in the womb. I do not consider any person conceived to be any of those things.

I have met other survivors of abortion. They are all thankful for life. Only a few months ago I met another saline abortion survivor. Her name is Sarah. She is two years old. Sarah also has cerebral palsy, but her diagnosis is not good. She is blind and has severe seizures. The abortionist, besides injecting the mother with saline, also injects the baby victims. Sarah was injected in the head. I saw the place on her head where this was done. When I speak, I speak not only for myself, but for the other survivors, like Sarah, and also for those who cannot yet speak ...

Today, a baby is a baby when convenient. It is tissue or otherwise when the time is not right. A baby is a baby when miscarriage takes place at two, three, four months. A baby is called a tissue or clumps of cells when an abortion takes place at two, three, four months. Why is that? I see no difference. What are you seeing? Many close there eyes...

The best thing I can show you to defend life is my life. It has been a great gift. Killing is not the answer to any question or situation. Show me how it is the answer.

There is a quote which is etched into the high ceilings of one of our state's capitol buildings. The quote says, "Whatever is morally wrong, is not politically correct." Abortion is morally wrong. Our country is shedding the blood of the innocent. America is killing its future.

All life is valuable. All life is a gift from our Creator. We must receive and cherish the gifts we are given. We must honor the right to life.

How is that a human is "tissue" pre-abortion, yet a post-abortion survivor is an "individual?" In a matter of moments one is "transformed" from tissue to human :cool: Sad that some determine an individual's value by what side of the knife they're on. :(

    The Born-Alive Infant Protection Act of 2002 amends the legal definitions of "person,""human being,""child" and "individual" to include any fetus that survives an abortion procedure.

    Those who meet the definition of "individual" are entitled to certain protections under federal law. In particular, hospitals can't refuse to treat them.


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Those are pretty powerful testimonies.

The same twin thing actually happened to my cousin's friend too. She had an abortion and later found out she was pregnant with a twin and it was too late to abort. I never heard anything more about it after that.

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I'm sitting here just shaking my head in disgust at the comments that continue to be made. "killing babies" "murderers" "torn limb from limb" "brains sucked out" "dumped down the drain". My god. Is there no decency in this place. How can the moderators or administrators allow this kind of language to go on. I was told once that I was not allowed to mention my "partner" because it referred to the fact that I am a lesbian and this site did not want to have children come in and read what I had posted. Yet this kind of vulgar and just plain sickening language continues for 6 PAGES in this thread. Sickening, hypocrital and just plain ignorant. You people have no decency. You have no respect for others. You do not have a single shred of concern for human emotion or compassion for anyone but yourselves. I don't care if you are opposed to abortion or not, there never a need for the kind of vulgarities that have been posted here. You should all be ashamed of yourselves!


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I'm sitting here just shaking my head in disgust at the comments that continue to be made. "killing babies" "murderers" "torn limb from limb" "brains sucked out" "dumped down the drain". My god. Is there no decency in this place.
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I'm sitting here just shaking my head in disgust at the comments that continue to be made. "killing babies" "murderers" "torn limb from limb" "brains sucked out" "dumped down the drain". My god.

And who is your god?

Is there no decency in this place. How can the moderators or administrators allow this kind of language to go on. I was told once that I was not allowed to mention my "partner" because it referred to the fact that I am a lesbian and this site did not want to have children come in and read what I had posted. Yet this kind of vulgar and just plain sickening language continues for 6 PAGES in this thread. . . .

But, Emily -

This is exactly what abortion is doing!


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We only talk about it, they actually DO IT.

And :emot-hug: I think :) she supports them. :)

What is very seriously wrong with this picture?

Dark Emily. Do you not see it?


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I was not allowed to mention my "partner" because it referred to the fact that I am a lesbian

I disagree with this decision but that's another thread.


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I don't agree with the misrepresentation of the judge, but I also think referring to the group as "pro-abortion" is also misleading. being pro-choice doesn't mean you are "pro-abortion"....it means what it says....pro-CHOICE. The right to CHOOSE.

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Are you REALLY for protecting every 'choice' someone could make? What about the 'choice' of Hitler, or Stalin, or Pol Pot?

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