wombat Posted February 25, 2021 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 11 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 4 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/02/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted February 25, 2021 Is it wise to query a pastors Biblical understanding? An ordained pastor is using feelings vs. using the Bible to counsel a friend who in my understanding is not repenting for some serious sin. The pastor is saying that since everyone appears to be ok emotionally than just move forward and not worry about the prior and ongoing sin. Im considering talking or emailing the pastor that I have not met to ask if he is aware or recommends these xyz Scriptures. It may not convince him as he appears to be a selective Christian who picks and choose which laws/rules of God apply. Am I wasting my time or should I just pray and let God work it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Adams Posted February 25, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 25 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 9,606 Content Per Day: 3.95 Reputation: 7,797 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/11/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted February 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, wombat said: Am I wasting my time or should I just pray and let God work it out. What is your friend's take on the matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted February 25, 2021 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.30 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted February 25, 2021 3 hours ago, wombat said: Is it wise to query a pastors Biblical understanding? An ordained pastor is using feelings vs. using the Bible to counsel a friend who in my understanding is not repenting for some serious sin. The pastor is saying that since everyone appears to be ok emotionally than just move forward and not worry about the prior and ongoing sin. Im considering talking or emailing the pastor that I have not met to ask if he is aware or recommends these xyz Scriptures. It may not convince him as he appears to be a selective Christian who picks and choose which laws/rules of God apply. Am I wasting my time or should I just pray and let God work it out. There are some really bad pastors out there, as well as some really good ones. You may have no peace till you talk to him about this, and you might find his answer totally unsatisfactory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted February 25, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.22 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted February 25, 2021 I'd start off by asking the pastor where in scripture can you find that "since everyone appears to be ok emotionally than just move forward and not worry about the prior and ongoing sin", assuming that was their exact words. Be sure you are addressing their exact statement and not a paraphrase of what they said. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tristen Posted February 26, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 9 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,378 Content Per Day: 0.63 Reputation: 1,357 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/26/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted February 26, 2021 Hi Wombat, My first advice would be to seek the Holy Spirit's guidance. Do not move without God. If the minister is your friend's Pastor, then the minister has an accountability to God for your friend's welfare - which is not our place to undermine. Then we commit the offence of dissension. If you do decide you need to get involved, do not set yourself against the Pastor. Instead, approach the situation from a posture of humility. E.g. 'I wonder if [insert your concerns here] might also be an issue that needs dealing with', or 'When the Pastor advised that course of action, was he/she aware of these issues in your life?' etc. Be careful not to judge the Pastor. Unless you were privy to the conversation, you do not have enough information to make such determinations. It could be your friend that is being "selective" in their understanding of what was said, or in what in what they are relaying to you. You also do not know that the Holy Spirit hasn't given the Pastor a strategy that is specific to your friend's circumstances (maybe there are things about your friend that only God knows - e.g. that demand a more delicate approach be used). Absolutely continue to "pray". Pray for your friend. Pray for the Pastor. Pray for yourself - in case your perspective is incorrect. Trust and thank God that He both hears and answers prayer, and has His hand on the situation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK1110 Posted February 26, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 22 Topic Count: 88 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 6,894 Content Per Day: 2.42 Reputation: 9,643 Days Won: 4 Joined: 07/18/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/10/1986 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Do it in love and privately, but yes do it I would say. We are called to loving try to bring brothers and sisters back when they have strayed, or when we see clear sin in their lives (after we have examined our own hearts for needed cleaning). And a pastor is in a position to do much more harm than most. It is absolutely important and wise. In all of it of course continue to reach out to your friend too. If the pastor will not bring scripture to bear, then who will? Someone must. It seems like perhaps God has chosen you to be the messenger your friend needs to hear from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who me Posted March 1, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,300 Content Per Day: 1.71 Reputation: 1,686 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/27/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted March 1, 2021 On 2/25/2021 at 5:23 PM, wombat said: Is it wise to query a pastors Biblical understanding? An ordained pastor is using feelings vs. using the Bible to counsel a friend who in my understanding is not repenting for some serious sin. The pastor is saying that since everyone appears to be ok emotionally than just move forward and not worry about the prior and ongoing sin. Im considering talking or emailing the pastor that I have not met to ask if he is aware or recommends these xyz Scriptures. It may not convince him as he appears to be a selective Christian who picks and choose which laws/rules of God apply. Am I wasting my time or should I just pray and let God work it out. Is this your pastor? If not how do you know he is willing to talk about his counselling. May I suggest that you talk to your friend and gently explain that sin needs to be repented of and stopped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverwalker Posted March 1, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 92 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,054 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 1,753 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/09/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted March 1, 2021 (edited) On 2/25/2021 at 9:23 AM, wombat said: Is it wise to query a pastors Biblical understanding? An ordained pastor is using feelings vs. using the Bible to counsel a friend who in my understanding is not repenting for some serious sin. The pastor is saying that since everyone appears to be ok emotionally than just move forward and not worry about the prior and ongoing sin. Im considering talking or emailing the pastor that I have not met to ask if he is aware or recommends these xyz Scriptures. It may not convince him as he appears to be a selective Christian who picks and choose which laws/rules of God apply. Am I wasting my time or should I just pray and let God work it out. Oh boy that is a slippery slope. You need to be very careful. If you were to do anything, you could email him the scriptures, with no explanation, no commentary, don't tell him what or wh0 it about...just the scriptures. Then if he asks, there might be a chance to help. If he doesn't ask, then the word did not move him, and if it can't move him, you surely can't. Edited March 1, 2021 by Riverwalker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted March 1, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,992 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,690 Content Per Day: 11.77 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted March 1, 2021 On 2/25/2021 at 9:23 AM, wombat said: Is it wise to query a pastors Biblical understanding? An ordained pastor is using feelings vs. using the Bible to counsel a friend who in my understanding is not repenting for some serious sin. The pastor is saying that since everyone appears to be ok emotionally than just move forward and not worry about the prior and ongoing sin. Im considering talking or emailing the pastor that I have not met to ask if he is aware or recommends these xyz Scriptures. It may not convince him as he appears to be a selective Christian who picks and choose which laws/rules of God apply. Am I wasting my time or should I just pray and let God work it out. The Pastor is wrong. There are many Pastors that are wrong. Perhaps it is best to pray for this person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alive Posted March 7, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 22 Topic Count: 194 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 11,054 Content Per Day: 6.50 Reputation: 9,018 Days Won: 36 Joined: 09/12/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/09/1956 Share Posted March 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, JohnD said: Not to embolden antagonistic little imps who go around fact checking every misspoken word This is not necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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