Teachers, can you do better, or worse?

[The_Patriot21]

2 hours ago, Whyme said:

you call me a liar. I'm not. I can have two reasons you know.

I didn't call you a liar, i said you were looking for excuses. This is the second time you have put words in my mouth. At this point im going to continue on as you refuse to hear anything you disagree with. 

[Alive]

Stay on the topic fellas--don't make it personal.

[Still Alive]

4 hours ago, Whyme said:

Why is it wrong to tell someone they should do something? Doesn't the bible tell us what we should do?

One thing I learned from "Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus" is that you never offer unsolicited advice to a man. It gets you knowhere. You have to let him ask you. And sometimes he asks simply by saying he is having a problem with something. that's his way of saying, "do you have any advice on this". 

On a slightly related note, when a woman tells you that she is having a problem with  something, she just wants your empathetic attention. It's not about the nail. 

[Whyme]

2 hours ago, teddyv said:

Yes, false teachers will abound, but let's look at a couple other times teachers are mentioned...
 

So teachers are part of the church, placed there by God.

 

Seems to suggest that we can and should all be able to be teachers.

 

Paul, in Timothy, calls himself a teacher to the Gentiles.

I dont believe in apostles or teachers. I dont think God put these teachers in authority, i think man did. That scripture refers to real apostles and teachers, the ones God actually put there, the ones who wrote scripture.

[Whyme]

2 hours ago, OneLight said:

This is talking of those who twist scripture to back up sinful lifestyles, not about those who seek His teachings.  2 Timothy 4:1-5 is the scripture you were referring to, so let's take a closer look.

I charge you therefore before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, who will judge the living and the dead at His appearing and His kingdom: Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching.  For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables.  But you be watchful in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.

Notice that those who do so "will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires" - meaning they don't want the truth, but are looking for ways to make themselves feel better about their sin.

You need to ask yourself why would God give us the office of teaching if He did not want us to have teachers?  1 Corinthians 12:27-21 tells us:

Now you are the body of Christ, and members individually.  And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, varieties of tongues.  Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Are all workers of miracles?  Do all have gifts of healings? Do all speak with tongues? Do all interpret?  But earnestly desire the best gifts. And yet I show you a more excellent way.

Scripture does not contradict itself.  Just be careful who you sit under.  As shown you earlier, be as those from Berea spoken of in Acts 17:10-15 and take what you are told and place it beside scripture to see if it is true or not. 

I dont think teachers today have been appointed by God but by man and his flawed theology. If God appointed them they would have no errors.

[Marathoner]

2 minutes ago, Whyme said:

I dont think teachers today have been appointed by God but by man and his flawed theology. If God appointed them they would have no errors.

Are you without error? Consider your words.

[Whyme]

1 hour ago, The_Patriot21 said:

I didn't call you a liar, i said you were looking for excuses. This is the second time you have put words in my mouth. At this point im going to continue on as you refuse to hear anything you disagree with. 

Well im not looking for excuses either. God knows my struggle against sin. He knows i dont justify myself.

[Whyme]

1 minute ago, Marathoner said:

Are you without error? Consider your words.

I wasnt appointed by God and dont claim to be.

[Still Alive]

12 minutes ago, Whyme said:

I dont think teachers today have been appointed by God but by man and his flawed theology. If God appointed them they would have no errors.

All teachers have errors. Heck, just see my tag line. And the authors of the earlier books of the bible thought the world was flat and another world was suspended above it with pillars we call mountains. You can see it in the way they describe the world. And Paul (and Hippocrates) thought women's hair was a sex organ. 

We get to focus and determine the "truth" based on prayer and the functioning of our mind and spirit - dramatically enhanced by our relationship with our creator and implementation of his will for our life.

Edited April 22, 2021 by Still Alive

[Whyme]

Just now, Still Alive said:

All teachers have errors. Heck, just see my tag line. And the early writers thought the world was flat and another world was suspended above it with pillars we call mountains. You can see it in the way they describe the world. And Paul (and Hippocrates) thought women's hair was a sex organ. 

We get to focus and determine the "truth" based on prayer and the functioning of our mind and spirit.

So you are saying Gods apostles taught the church error? I dont agree.