Battle of the mind, overcoming the flesh

[missmuffet]

Staying mentally focused on God. 

The helmet of salvation.

Ephesians 6:17

And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God;

[Whyme]

11 hours ago, missmuffet said:

Staying mentally focused on God. 

The helmet of salvation.

Ephesians 6:17

And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God;

I always thought the shield of faith was about faith in salvation. Maybe i need to think about that. I guess the shield is more than about salvation? 

[Whyme]

10 hours ago, Josheb said:

Important to remember: Unless one has the mind of Christ the mind is flesh. 

The battle of the mind is overcoming the flesh and overcoming the flesh is the battle of the mind.... once the flesh has been redeemed. Apart from Christ we can do nothing. 

And - as was articulated many way by many posters in your op on teachers - scripture and God are not the only teachers. God uses others. He visits our flesh upon us the interactions with others He orchestrates, and He provides the means and direction for overcoming the same..... by interactions He orchestrates with others. Any suggestion God does not use the body of Christ and outsiders is an over-spiritualized fleshly belief that must be overcome. It completely denies the truth of "as iron sharpens iron so one man sharpens another" (Pr. 27:17). 

 

I wouldn't consider Phil. 4:8 without its preceding verses, either. Before we practice the things listed we meditate and dwell on the things listed and before we meditate or dwell we are to pray and pray in the specified manner. Using scripture selectively (like proof-texting) is also a matter of overcoming the flesh. 

Surely without grace i could do nothing. 

[BeyondET]

17 minutes ago, Whyme said:

I always thought the shield of faith was about faith in salvation. Maybe i need to think about that. I guess the shield is more than about salvation? 

shield of salvation is used, horn is used also hehe

2 Samuel 22:36 You have given me the shield of your salvation, and your gentleness made me great.

Psalm 71:15 My mouth will tell of your righteous acts, of your deeds of salvation all the day, for their number is past my knowledge.

Edited April 23, 2021 by BeyondET

[Beckett]

With regards to overcoming the flesh I would say that the number one thing one needs to understand is not to cling to it. One just needs to have faith that the great spirit knows what´s best, not your human mind.

 

The human mind always goes this is good, that is bad, good, bad, good, bad, good, bad ... it is stuck there. It does not know, it is in a state of confusion. So what can you do? nothing, except trust in God/the spirit and it will reveal itself when you are ready for it. But it won´t reveal itself to a human mind that is full of itself and its own ideas.  

[Whyme]

2 minutes ago, BeyondET said:

shield of salvation is used, horn is used also hehe

2 Samuel 22:36 You have given me the shield of your salvation, and your gentleness made me great.

I used the shield of faith the other day. My mind was troubled with thoughts and i recited scripture to myself about Gods grace. My mind cleared up.  Or is that the sword of the Spirit? lol. 

[BeyondET]

5 minutes ago, Whyme said:

I used the shield of faith the other day. My mind was troubled with thoughts and i recited scripture to myself about Gods grace. My mind cleared up.  Or is that the sword of the Spirit? lol. 

Or the Rock lol, what works for you works it’s personal only God truly knows each of us completely.

[Whyme]

1 minute ago, Beckett said:

With regards to overcoming the flesh I would say that the number one thing one needs to understand is not to cling to it. One just needs to have faith that the great spirit knows what´s best, not your human mind.

 

The human mind always goes this is good, that is bad, good, bad, good, bad, good, bad ... it is stuck there. It does not know, it is in a state of confusion. So what can you do? nothing, except trust in God/the spirit and it will reveal itself when you are ready for it. But it won´t reveal itself to a human mind that is full of itself and its own ideas.  

Interesting thoughts, thanks. What do you think of the scriptures in the op? It teaches us to think about good things. When confusion comes maybe thinking about Gods grace or His promises would be helpful. What ive experienced is that the mind can get confusing. And failing to live up to what God wants from us is horrible. Why? Confusion. You keep living on Gods grace but never see victory. Perhaps these scriptures hold a key to overcoming the confusion and bad thoughts. 

[BeyondET]

 

Hmm on the opening verses, this below seems fitting I too need to work on things.

Hebrews 12:1

1 Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles. And let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us,

[Whyme]

5 minutes ago, BeyondET said:

 

Hmm on the opening verses, this below seems fitting I too need to work on things.

Hebrews 12:1

1 Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles. And let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us,

22 But you have come to Mount Zion, to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem. You have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly,