Battle of the mind, overcoming the flesh

[David1701]

2 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Sometimes we need to embrace our anxieties and look into them and do something about them, deal with them, so when come to our memory or something takes place that stimulates our memories, memories we do not want to have , we are not bother or disturb as much , somehow we manage to still mantain our peace and keep anxiety at a distance. 

In due time. 

Jesus does not forbid technics that help us with our anxiety attacks.

Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on Thee, because he trusteth in Thee.

I memorised this from the KJV, but I've no objection to other sound translations of it.  The point is that we are saved (in all senses), by grace, through faith in the Lord.  He is our peace.

We need to look away from ourselves, to the Lord Jesus Christ, the Author and Finisher of our faith.

[Guest clancy]

2 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Sometimes we need to embrace our anxieties and look into them and do something about them, deal with them, so when come to our memory or something takes place that stimulates our memories, memories we do not want to have , we are not bother or disturb as much , somehow we manage to still mantain our peace and keep anxiety at a distance. 

In due time. 

Jesus does not forbid technics that help us with our anxiety attacks.

We are all learning aren’t we,YCF....I remember as a new babe, I suffered terrible anxiety, it’s a very long story, anyway I had cognitive therapy which helped a great deal, it was getting to the source of where that anxiety came from, then dealing with it, which I did manage to, the root of anxiety needed digging up, of course it was God who got to the root cause, but never saw it at the time, it was extremely painful, dealing with it, but God wanted it out and he got it out, “ No Pain No Gain”......I have been healed, when I get negative/ destructive thoughts now, I look straight to God.

Edited May 5, 2021 by clancy

[Guest clancy]

4 hours ago, Whyme said:

The other day my thoughts were occupied with unpleasant things, i was reminded of the scripture about thinking good thoughts and i closed my eyes and a peace came over me. I hope that is God and that this peace will stay with me in the future. I didnt know peace like this for many years. Anyway, God will show me the truth, and i will put faith in that.

Overcoming the flesh is a spiritual battle ,Whyme, always look to Jesus/ Holy Spirit, pray constantly, just keep God at the forefront of your mind, he is number one.?

[Your closest friendnt]

18 minutes ago, clancy said:

We are all learning aren’t we,YCF....I remember as a new babe, I suffered terrible anxiety, it’s a very long story, anyway I had cognitive therapy which helped a great deal, it was getting to the source of where that anxiety came from, then dealing with it, which I did manage to, the root of anxiety needed digging up, of course it was God who got to the root cause, but never saw it at the time, it was extremely painful, dealing with it, but God wanted it out and he got it out, “ No Pain No Gain”......I have been healed, when I get negative/ destructive thoughts now, I look straight to God.

I too have gone through terrible and tortuous times, now that's is way back and the memory and the effects are distancing with time, I am thinking if I needed to go through it, as to learn the hard way, I do not mean that everyone needs to go through similar experiences. 

Everyone is different and everyone's growth is different and at a different rate and time, but through those times the Lord's help and guidance was above all and that's how I learn to love him, and asked and believe that he is my strength and my empowering. 

 

[Guest clancy]

Just now, Your closest friendnt said:

I too have gone through terrible and tortuous times, now that's is way back and the memory and the effects are distancing with time, I am thinking if I needed to go through it, as to learn the hard way, I do not mean that everyone needs to go through similar experiences. 

Everyone is different and everyone's growth is different and at a different rate and time, but through those times the Lord's help and guidance was above all and that's how I learn to love him, and asked and believe that he is my strength and my empowering. 

 

Amen Brother!

[Whyme]

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Edited May 5, 2021 by Whyme

[Guest clancy]

Whyme, I used to get terrible thoughts of anger, and acted on them, what I kept forgetting was, that God wants me to look to him for help, not “ myself” as soon as I broke down and poured my heart out to him, and asked for his help, everything  started to change.?

[Whyme]

1 hour ago, Josheb said:

Excuse me guys, @Your closest friendnt, @clancy, and @Whyme, but these recent posts beg a question I don't see any evidence has been considered. 

Why would I expect someone experiencing chronic anxiety (and who uses scripturally selectively to marginalize others in that anxiety) to be able to well instruct anyone about the battle of the mind overcoming the flesh? 

I don't mean any disrespect but is the problem inherent in that not seen for what it is? Can a divorced counselor help a struggling couple? Sure. But would I prefer a divorced counselor or one married multiple decades (all other things being equal)? Can an embezzler manage stock investments? Sure, but why choose such a person when there are healthier alternatives?  

Is our focus or attention on the battle......

.....or the overcoming?

Someone who overcomes anxiety with faith is not like a divorced person. Your argument here is very flawed. We are all sinners, correct? How can a sinner teach others? You just argued that we shouldn't listen to teachers because they are sinners too. We all experience anxiety too, but its how we deal with it that matters.

Edited May 5, 2021 by Whyme

[Your closest friendnt]

37 minutes ago, clancy said:

We are all learning aren’t we,YCF....I remember as a new babe, I suffered terrible anxiety, it’s a very long story, anyway I had cognitive therapy which helped a great deal, it was getting to the source of where that anxiety came from, then dealing with it, which I did manage to, the root of anxiety needed digging up, of course it was God who got to the root cause, but never saw it at the time, it was extremely painful, dealing with it, but God wanted it out and he got it out, “ No Pain No Gain”......I have been healed, when I get negative/ destructive thoughts now, I look straight to God.

The Lord guides different than those who whom we trust to help. This is my experience, he builds us up and give us what we need (at times) and then he sow us are needs and how to conquer are situations. 

That's what I learn, that he want us to learn to overcome and conquer and face off with our own situations. 

There is not going back, he moves us forwards, he reaver things to us to help us want to go ahead and move forwards. 

He has a game plan for us, for everyone of us.

I loved the world too much, and one time he said to me, go on and live your life as you want, but you are still  mine. 

It took years to understand what he was telling me.

That every where I was he could use me, that he is not found only in the church and that too, which is important, very important, but he can be with us and help us in our every day life, guiding us to do everything better even at work.

He asked me to learn a lot of things about the basketball game and the teams, somehow be a fan, and then my relations with  my co-workers improved because they loved the game and talked about that.

He pointed to me to what he said: give to God what belongs to God and to your co-workers what I should give friendship in their terms. He teach me to learn to co-exist without letting my self being shallow by their culture. 

[Whyme]

10 minutes ago, Josheb said:

Never said any of that. Once again, things never stated are put into the post, thereby grossly misrepresenting what is states. Go back and re-read the post. Think about what it actually states. 

Yep. 

And nothing I posted should be read to say otherwise. 
 

Ok, what was your point i missed?