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7 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

The statement "Jesus was and is 100% God", it cannot be found in Hebrews 1:3 as posted in your post. 

 

John 1:18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 8:57-58 The people said, “You aren’t even fifty years old. How can you say you have seen Abraham?” Jesus answered, “I tell you the truth, before Abraham was even born, I Am!”

John 20:27-28 Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.” Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”

2 Peter 1:1 Simeon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ.

 


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46 minutes ago, Justin Adams said:

John 1:18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 8:57-58 The people said, “You aren’t even fifty years old. How can you say you have seen Abraham?” Jesus answered, “I tell you the truth, before Abraham was even born, I Am!”

John 20:27-28 Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.” Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”

2 Peter 1:1 Simeon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ.

 

The statement "Jesus was and is 100% God", it cannot be found in the scriptures posted in your quoted post.

Neither is there something that may be use to reasonably argue "that Jesus was and is 100% God. 

The statement "Jesus was and is 100% God", it cannot be supported by scripture. 

Then we may proceed to the second part of your earlier post that continue to say:

*** "Therefore he can do anything he chooses." ***

Can we look into this statement independently from the statements "Jesus is 100% God", and ask the question. 

"Can Jesus do anything he chooses to do" .

This statement made in your earlier post, is it made independent from scripture, or is it made with scriptural foundation? 

Please can you show cause,  the foundational scriptures that can be use in support of this statement, 

Because we are in the middle of the discussion that Jesus existed in the physical as we are before he was born and had been seen by others. 

And who are those? 

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Regarding the topic of Jesus being fully God and fully man at the same time.

Jesus when speaking to the religious leaders, didn't say... he used to be God, but for now, he's man, and then he would be God again. No, Jesus claimed to be God standing right in front of them. They could not wrap their minds around the idea that He was God among them. If Jesus made the claim that he was only a mere human with no divinity standing in front of them, it would not have carried any weight. But in reality, Jesus DID claim to be God in the flesh and that carried weight. So much weight that the religious leaders condemned him to death. For they found His claim to be offensive and a scandal.

Jesus had to be fully human because God's justice, requires that the same human nature which has sinned should pay for sin. Jesus also had to be fully God at the same time, because humanity can not bear the weight of God's penalty and anger. There is no way that a mere human could fully satisfy God's wrath. For God's wrath is infinite in nature and quality. Only Jesus as God could bring a sacrifice of infinite and eternal value to God that he would appease heaven’s wrath. By merit of his divine nature, he is able to earn for us eternal life and favor with God. The divinity of Christ means that he is able to be raised from the dead (after conquering it) and therefore apply the benefits he has earned for us. He is God and also man through the whole process, from start to finish.

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1 Corinthians 1:18-25
18 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19 For it is written:

“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise;
    the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.”

20 Where is the wise person? Where is the teacher of the law? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? 21 For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe. 22 Jews demand signs and Greeks look for wisdom, 23 but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, 24 but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 25 For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than human strength.

1 Corinthians 1:27,28
27 But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. 28 God chose the lowly things of this world and the despised things—and the things that are not—to nullify the things that are,

 

 

 

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41 minutes ago, appy said:

1 Corinthians 1:18-25
18 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19 For it is written:

“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise;
    the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.”

20 Where is the wise person? Where is the teacher of the law? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? 21 For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe. 22 Jews demand signs and Greeks look for wisdom, 23 but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, 24 but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 25 For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than human strength.

1 Corinthians 1:27,28
27 But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. 28 God chose the lowly things of this world and the despised things—and the things that are not—to nullify the things that are,

 

 

 

Thank you for the reminders of what is the Gospel of Jesus Christ and the wisdom God gave to Paul to live these treasures to us and the priviledge to have access to them.

This is what Paul said about Jesus.

That Jesus before he was born in Bethlehem, that he was the Creator of the Heavenly. That puts him in Heaven and being in Heaven before the Angels were created as the Angels were created by him.

That time he was God the Creator. The distinction is made between the Heavenly Father and the Creator, the same distinction as John made in the Gospel of John chapter one.

Paul also declares that Jesus Christ before he was born as the Creator of the earth and all the Sun and not to forget the moon and the atmosphere and the unseen powers , the  gravity ; the pulls , the things that science have discovered which the people of that time could not understand or talked about as they could not see or perceived. 

Paul and John and Peter show Jesus Christ prexisting but not in the Physical body and in his New state of being when he was conceived and born from Mary under the Law of Moses. 

They show Jesus as the Lord with Abraham, the Lord God Almighty with Moses. And the one with Moses in mount Sinai when they enter in a Covenant with.

And they see Jesus as the Light of the world. 

They see the Light of the world for the first time gone from the world for three days and nights,

(do not argue with me, I did not say 24 hours nor the prophets and neither Jesus).

And God gave his testimony when for three hours at the time of the death of Jesus Christ a total darkness fall upon all the world. 

But not in the place of the dead. 

Then they see Jesus Christ given all authority from the Heavenly Father when he raised him from the Dead and sited on the Heavenly Throne and God giving him all his powers and his theotis everything he had. 

Making the man Jesus as Paul said cloth or vested with all the powers of God and having Dominion over everything and all.

 They only preached the man Jesus Christ as divine as the Son of God whom God Glorify and gave him everything. 

JESUS CHRIST RULES

(How some of the Jews or someone else sees Jesus Christ, does it really matters?

Has God put them over as teachers to Jesus to tell him who he is? Are you kidding me. 

***the point we were discussing did Jesus Christ appointed to people in the flesh of his mother's before he was born? Is that possible? 

Some even have gone as far that God had the flesh or the body of man the physical body before the earth was created. 

Do you have something to say to that? 

Because when they say Jesus appeared in the Physical body of man at the same time when they say that they consent that Man is a Seol 

The seen and the unseen. 

The physical and the non phycical. 

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5 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

How can you reconcile the fact that Jesus was conceived and was borned after the nine months gestation period and he must come be born and live amongst his own people. 

I finish up with the key words "from and amongst HIS OWN PEOPLE ". 

Before and After Jesus was Jesus on Earth, He was always 100% the WORD.   The WORD is [NEVER] is in physical form.   Jesus became Jesus for 1 sole purpose outside of being our "Example" how to live for God.   He came to DIE, to SAVE, to Conquer DEATH through RESURRECTION.   He is the SLAIN LAMB!   But in Heaven, He is and always will be the WORD.

 

And remember when Jesus told Mary to not [touch Him], He also created the way how are very own bodies will transform.   And then we will no longer be physical, but 100% Spiritual Embodiment.

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Posted
5 hours ago, Justin Adams said:

Yeshua was and is 100% God. Therefore He can manifest however He chooses.

AMEN!

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In layman's term, Jesus emptied Himself and allowed Himself to be made just [lower] than the Angels.   But even so, He was/is/always will be God!

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1 minute ago, kingdombrat said:

In layman's term, Jesus emptied Himself and allowed Himself to be made just [lower] than the Angels.   But even so, He was/is/always will be God!

John 1:1 explains Jesus is the WORD, few Verses later, we read the WORD manifested Himself into flesh.   Paul explains the quoted part in his writings.


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4 minutes ago, kingdombrat said:

In layman's term, Jesus emptied Himself and allowed Himself to be made just [lower] than the Angels.   But even so, He was/is/always will be God!

yup pecking order is God,Angels,Man,Animals etc.

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