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How does a "soul" (Gen. 2-7) relate to "His image" (Gen. 1:26 -27)?


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47 minutes ago, HAZARD said:

Gen. 2:   21, And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; 
    22, And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made2 he a woman, and brought her unto the man. 
    23, And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman,13 because she was taken out of Man.14 
    24, Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh

God used Adam’s rib to form Eve—He used existing tissue and did not “start from scratch”—to show that Adam and Eve were of the same substance; she was made from the same “stuff” and was a bearer of God’s image and likeness, just as Adam was.

God’s use of one of Adam’s ribs to make Eve is a reminder that woman was created to be “beside” man. Together, the man and woman complement one another in marriage, and in Christ they are “heirs together of the grace of life” (1 Peter 3:7).

Why did God use Adam’s rib? Interestingly, ribs have amazing regenerative powers. Portions of rib bone and cartilage removed in bone graft surgery will regrow in a few months’ time, as long as the rib perichondrium is left intact. This means that Adam’s loss of a rib was only temporary; he did not have to go through the rest of his life with an incomplete skeletal system.

Thank for the scriptures that sow that Eve inherited the Life of Adam, that God the Creator did not have to breath in the nostrils of Eve as he did not made up Eve from the Earth. 

(Thank you for not departing from the scripture to say clay instant of Earth. That's important. The people are teaching others to substitute the words found in scripture and slowly step by step are wondering in strange places, they add clay to suggest something and built on it. To teach people to depart from the specific words in the scriptures. 

 

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1 hour ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Abraham made a Covenant with the Lord God. 

Moses also met the Lord God Almighty and he enter in the Covenant of Sinai.

The Lord God said to Moses "I am the God of Abraham, and Isaac and Jacob...

This discussion it was about your statement that Jesus was sited in a human body exactly your words were "physically", before he was born, without entering into any arguments just yet , can you take us to the events when that happened? 

We see Jesus as Melchizedek eating with Abram [Abraham], We see Jesus as God with 2 Angels eating with Abraham before destroying Sodom and G, we see Jesus as the Leader of God's Army with Joshua, we see Jesus as the 4th man with Shadrach-Meshack-Abednego.

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Examples of Physical appearances before being Jesus became Jesus.

 

 

We see Jesus as a Burning Bush [specifically the non consuming FIRE] with Moses, we see Jesus as the [STAFF] of Moses, we see Jesus as the Tree of Life in the Garden, we see Jesus as Noah's [ARK], we see Jesus as a [CLOUD] by day and [PILLAR of FIRE] by night leading Moses and the just freed Hebrew slaves out of Egypt.

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Examples of Jesus being not in a human form

 

 

And of course, we see Genesis 1 being the WORD from John 1:1

 

And these are just some of the examples we have.  There are more.   But I hope you understand my point here with these.

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1 minute ago, HAZARD said:

After God mad Adam from the dust of the ground, God breathed into Adam and it was then that Adam became a living, that is "alive," being, and with his God breathed soul, Adam became a living soul. The body will die, the soul will never die. The soul will return to God when you die, or spend eternity separated from God if one dies in repentant sin.

I don’t think it says that... He took dirt and breathed into this formed dirt and then it became a living soul... 

It does not have a living soul as though it has 3 parts- body, soul and spirit.... God created Adam with just two parts... 

This second part- God breathed into Adam was not simple air as most find, but He breathed His Spirit into this dirt.

Now this creation is “in the image” of Him... Two parts- body and spirit (certainly NOT like God or a copy of God, but made in His image.

If we look upon Jesus we would see “His image” (but of course Jesus was God). 

When Adam sinned he immediately lost “His spirit” that God breathed into him- Adam still could breath air and he still had his body, but he lost that thing that was given him from within God- that thing / spirit could not be in the presence of sin.

Just my thoughts, Charlie 


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2 minutes ago, kingdombrat said:

We see Jesus as Melchizedek eating with Abram [Abraham], We see Jesus as God with 2 Angels eating with Abraham before destroying Sodom and G, we see Jesus as the Leader of God's Army with Joshua, we see Jesus as the 4th man with Shadrach-Meshack-Abednego.

^

Examples of Physical appearances before being Jesus became Jesus.

 

 

We see Jesus as a Burning Bush [specifically the non consuming FIRE] with Moses, we see Jesus as the [STAFF] of Moses, we see Jesus as the Tree of Life in the Garden, we see Jesus as Noah's [ARK], we Jesus as a [CLOUD] by day and [PILLAR of FIRE] by night leading Moses and the just freed Hebrew slaves out of Egypt.

^

Examples of Jesus being not in a human form

 

 

And of course, we see Genesis 1 being the WORD from John 1:1

 

And these are just some of the examples we have.  There are more.   But I hope you understand my point here with these.

Yes, is the Word, John 1:1, who was with God, and who was with God, and who created all things John 1:3, and who became flesh so He could die and take upon Himself the sins of the whole world John 1:14. As a member of the Godhead, He could not die for us, as a man, He could die. And the Father who remained in Heaven while Christ was on the Earth raised Jesus from the dead., Gal. 1:1.

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Just now, HAZARD said:

Yes, is the Word, John 1:1, who was with God, and who was with God, and who created all things John 1:3, and who became flesh so He could die and take upon Himself the sins of the whole world John 1:14. As a member of the Godhead, He could not die for us, as a man, He could die. And the Father who remained in Heaven while Christ was on the Earth raised Jesus from the dead., Gal. 1:1.

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2 minutes ago, HAZARD said:

Yes, is the Word, John 1:1, who was with God, and who was with God, and who created all things John 1:3, and who became flesh so He could die and take upon Himself the sins of the whole world John 1:14. As a member of the Godhead, He could not die for us, as a man, He could die. And the Father who remained in Heaven while Christ was on the Earth raised Jesus from the dead., Gal. 1:1.

I agree .... when Jesus was on the Cross one of the last things He said was "into Your hands I commit My Spirit"..... The part of Jesus - His Spirit can never die, just like us when we did our "spirit" returns to God, Before Jesus would / could die He had to separate His Spirit and then His physical body could die until the third day when God would once again restore His Spirit back into Jesus. This is exactly  what we can expect when we die... and when we are resurrected.  

But Jesus never lost His Spirit ... until He GAVE IT UP TO GOD. When Adam sinned he lost it immediately .... and the only way to restore that "spirit" back into us is through Pentecost. Now why we live we are simply the earth creation who continues to breath - we no longer have HIS Spirit within us...

Just my thoughts,Charlie


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23 minutes ago, HAZARD said:

After God made Adam from the dust of the ground, God breathed into Adam and it was then that Adam became a living, that is "alive," being, and with his God breathed soul, Adam became a living soul. The body will die, the soul will never die. The soul will return to God when you die, or spend eternity separated from God if one dies in repentant sin.

 

24 minutes ago, HAZARD said:

After God made Adam from the dust of the ground, God breathed into Adam and it was then that Adam became a living, that is "alive," being, and with his God breathed soul, Adam became a living soul. The body will die, the soul will never die. The soul will return to God when you die, or spend eternity separated from God if one dies in repentant sin.

Genesis 2:7 

And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

***I post the scripture for a reason , not to judge you but to sow what is written down and to compare with what we make it say our selves. 

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13 minutes ago, HAZARD said:

Yes, is the Word, John 1:1, who was with God, and who was with God, and who created all things John 1:3, and who became flesh so He could die and take upon Himself the sins of the whole world John 1:14. As a member of the Godhead, He could not die for us, as a man, He could die. And the Father who remained in Heaven while Christ was on the Earth raised Jesus from the dead., Gal. 1:1.

Hazzard wrote the above post as a refreshing of our memory. 

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We can make it simple by posting the scripture first 

Genesis 2:7 

 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

The first Man, the first soul.

Some translations say "a living person" instead of " a living soul" 

That's ok.

The first Man, the first person. 

Some other say " living creature", this is confusing for perhaps more than one reason. 

The are are other creation made by God as the animals and the birds and the monsters in the sea, The small ones like the corals, this kind to make the point.

But God made the distinction between Adam and all the other "creatures" because he only made Adam in his "own image and in his Likeness".

to substitute "soul" and or "person" for "creature" it loses the distinction that Man is unique and is distinguish from the other creation of God which they were called "creatures " by God because they were his creation and only Man he made different and very unique because for before the foundation of the earth he knew that in due time he will be walking the earth AS A MAN himself.

Born in Bethlehem amongst HIS OWN PEOPLE. 

If you can understand whose People were the Israelites then you can understand who was the infant born in Bethlehem. 

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11 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

We can make it simple by posting the scripture first 

Genesis 2:7 

 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

The first Man, the first soul.

Some translations say "a living person" instead of " a living soul" 

That's ok.

The first Man, the first person. 

Some other say " living creature", this is confusing for perhaps more than one reason. 

The are are other creation made by God as the animals and the birds and the monsters in the sea, The small ones like the corals, this kind to make the point.

But God made the distinction between Adam and all the other "creatures" because he only made Adam in his "own image and in his Likeness".

to substitute "soul" and or "person" for "creature" it loses the distinction that Man is unique and is distinguish from the other creation of God which they were called "creatures " by God because they were his creation and only Man he made different and very unique because for before the foundation of the earth he knew that in due time he will be walking the earth AS A MAN himself.

Born in Bethlehem amongst HIS OWN PEOPLE. 

If you can understand whose People were the Israelites then you can understand who was the infant born in Bethlehem. 

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