Intellectualism

[Whyme]

1 hour ago, Josheb said:

No, and this is one of the reasons you do in fact need teachers. What I did was use your statement as posted to create a conditional clause. If.... then.... else..... If what was posted is true and/or correct...... then..... certain things are true and correct, or else..... (other things may be true and/or correct. But this kind of logic - scriptural logic seems to escape you because one of the most frequent responses is the accusation others are misquoting you when they are not in fact doing so. 

 

And, Whyme, you  just made the discussion about you, again, and not the subject matter at hand. AGAIN I REPEAT MYSELF: This op is solely and explicitly about the necessity of intellectuals, not the intellect, and not intellectualism, to understand God's word. This op is solely and explicitly about the need for intellectuals to understand God's word AND the op occurs within the context of a position whereby it is held only the Bible and the Holy Spirit are needed to understand God's word. 

 

Now those are the facts of the op. 

Everything else is off-topic. You are off-topic in your own op!!!!! 

 

 

Would you like to get back on topic in your own op? If so then post about the subject of intellectuals and not yourself. And do so openly; do so openly holding the position nothing else is ever needed to understand God's word. Stay on topic in your own op. Or don't. The former I can work with, the latter I will not. You choose . 

You took it off topic by making it personal. You are a very unpleasant person if i may say so.

[Alive]

2 minutes ago, Whyme said:

You took it off topic by making it personal. You are a very unpleasant person if i may say so.

No===you may not say so! Its against the term os service here at the forum and you know this and yet you typed this anyway.

[Riverwalker]

When we lose the love, we have lost everything.  Yes we can disagree, even vehemently but we must never offend. And the best way to avoid offending people...is don't let them offend you.  Say what needs to be said and then leave the rest to God.  If it bounces off of them, just move on

1 Cor 13:13 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I have become sounding brass or a clanging cymbal. 2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, but have not love, it profits me nothing.

 

The hardest lesson for me to learn

Edited May 9, 2021 by Riverwalker

[Riverwalker]

To the topic this is the pitfall of "Intellectualism" - Pride

When someone does not think like you do, it can cause us to be offended

[Marathoner]

1 hour ago, Alive said:

Yes and no--the reality is that God does need you and me and other members, because this is how He has chosen to operate. He made us originally in large part to join Him in His will. To partner with Him in His work. He 'needs' because this is His choice.

The Lord doesn't need man --- man needs the Lord, brother. 

What's more, the Lord doesn't need nor require men nor a man in order for His will to be done in the cosmos. Remember the words of the Lord when He declared that He could raise children of Abraham from stones. Indeed, the Son of God created man as well as everything seen and unseen. Nothing is impossible to the Lord God. 

Who is like Him? There is no other like Him.  

 

Edited May 9, 2021 by Marathoner

[Sower]

1 hour ago, Chicken coop2 said:

This is so true.  I know from volumes of tons of piles of mountains of personal experience since my earliest memory to a few times today.  It's extremely rare that others agree with me. 

Sorry coop, I have to disagree with you on that............

[Alive]

17 minutes ago, Riverwalker said:

To the topic this is the pitfall of "Intellectualism" - Pride

When someone does not think like you do, it can cause us to be offended

None of those things are necessary for even mildly matured saints.

There has been a misunderstanding, it seems to me, of what intellect means in the context of the Christian life. What place intellect has for the born from above individual.

Its all there within the posts of this OP.

[Alive]

15 minutes ago, Marathoner said:

The Lord doesn't need man --- man needs the Lord, brother. 

What's more, the Lord doesn't need nor require men nor a man in order for His will to be done in the cosmos. Remember the words of the Lord when He declared that He could raise children of Abraham from stones. Indeed, the Son of God created man as well as everything seen and unseen. Nothing is impossible to the Lord God. 

Who is like Him? There is no other like Him.  

 

The scriptural record teaches us something very different regarding God's choices in how He uses man. Please read what I wrote on the matter again. Perhaps there is a misunderstanding.

[Riverwalker]

9 hours ago, Alive said:

None of those things are necessary for even mildly matured saints.

There has been a misunderstanding, it seems to me, of what intellect means in the context of the Christian life. What place intellect has for the born from above individual.

Its all there within the posts of this OP.

I agree it is unnecessary , but it is what it is

There is a great deal of of difference between Intellect, (which we all have) and intellectualism

Adding -ism onto things changes them into evil 

Human  Humanism

Commune  Communism

Race  Racism

and so on

when something becomes an ism it becomes a dogma and theology of its own

 

Edited May 10, 2021 by Riverwalker

[Michael37]

2 minutes ago, Riverwalker said:

when something becomes an ism it becomes a dogma and theology of its own

Known as "ismisation".

In a sentence: "If the ismisation of things is banned it will be as a result of unbridled facism."