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16 hours ago, electlady said:

Hi, Justin...  I’m having a great deal of difficulty understanding what it is that preterists/partial preterists believe compared to, say, me, a futurist? I truly hate labels, actually.  So would you mind making a succinct list of these differences?  Also, kindly speak with clarity (unlike the theologian-speak I’m seeing more and more of here on the forum where, it seems, impressing each other with fancy words is more important than teaching).  I truly want to understand these differences.  I’m not liking the fact that all this bickering is certainly blowing our witness to those who are coming on here to learn.  Aren’t we brethren still?  Can’t we just get along and go about pleasing the Lord?  

—electlady 

You are indicting another member of the Body of Christ with a motive that you can't possibly know. Perhaps you are frustrated, but this is a personal attack and against the TOS. There are a few of these in this thread of late. Watch yourselves.

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16 hours ago, electlady said:

Hi, Justin...  I’m having a great deal of difficulty understanding what it is that preterists/partial preterists believe compared to, say, me, a futurist? I truly hate labels, actually.  So would you mind making a succinct list of these differences?  Also, kindly speak with clarity (unlike the theologian-speak I’m seeing more and more of here on the forum where, it seems, impressing each other with fancy words is more important than teaching).  I truly want to understand these differences.  I’m not liking the fact that all this bickering is certainly blowing our witness to those who are coming on here to learn.  Aren’t we brethren still?  Can’t we just get along and go about pleasing the Lord?  

—electlady 

You assign this term bickering when it is rather discussion or debating. OF course we are brethren. You have just now--twice now--tainted the discussion by introducing the notion of bickering. That is unnecessary.

[Justin Adams]

53 minutes ago, Retrobyter said:

Shalom, Justin Adams.

Just a quick fact check: Actually, the Dallas Theological Seminary was founded by Lewis Sperry Chafer in 1924. John Nelson Darby lived from 1800 to 1882. 

John Nelson Darby founded dispensationalism, a branch of pretribulational rapturism, in turn, a branch of premillennialism. His theological ideas were publicized in C. I. Scofield's Reference Bible published in 1909.

While there's no doubt that dispensationalism was taught at DTS, it was not done so by Darby himself.

Agreed. It was mostly Darby-Scofield etc. I misspoke about Darby founding DTS. Thank you.

"Dr. Chafer's eight volume Systematic Theology was published in 1947-1948. It was the first systematization of a premillennial, dispensational interpretation of the Scriptures. The actual writing required over ten years. The first edition of 2,500 sets was sold within six months, and a third printing was necessary within two years. This title is still in publication with the eight volumes now published in four, and it is still a textbook at Dallas Theological Seminary."

(emphasis mine)

https://library.dts.edu/Pages/TL/Special/80th.shtml

Edited May 16, 2021 by Justin Adams

[Justin Adams]

52 minutes ago, Uriah said:

I am simply asking if you agree that Jesus did not leave heaven for a second coming, as in 70 A.D.

I see that we need to vacate our temporal mindset.

Yeshua is God. He is in a realm we can only dream about. He may go wherever and however He wishes. God is not constrained and therefore does not 'leave heaven' when He wishes to be Himself elsewhere. He is God after all. Omnipotent and Omnipresent and Omniscient.

[Justin Adams]

1 minute ago, electlady said:

@Justin Adams No worries.  We’re all in sincere pursuit of Truth. 

Yes. My one string banjo is against pre-mill and dispensational teachings that short-circuit the Gospel and question the Divinity of Yeshua/Jesus.

[Uriah]

22 minutes ago, Justin Adams said:

I see that we need to vacate our temporal mindset.

Yeshua is God. He is in a realm we can only dream about. He may go wherever and however He wishes. God is not constrained and therefore does not 'leave heaven' when He wishes to be Himself elsewhere. He is God after all. Omnipotent and Omnipresent and Omniscient.

What does THIS mean?

Acts 3:21- For he must remain in heaven until the time for the final restoration of all things, as God promised long ago through his holy prophets.

His throne will be in the city of New Jerusalem also. And the city will come OUT OF heaven, no?

[Uriah]

Anyone else getting a message in red when replying?

 

[Justin Adams]

8 minutes ago, Uriah said:

What does THIS mean?

Please read what Josh wrote earlier. He says it better than I can.

[Heleadethme]

34 minutes ago, electlady said:

Okay

Don't you worry about gnats sister.  I've seen whole camels get away with murder, cutting people down mercilessly with their words. 

[Justin Adams]

4 minutes ago, Heleadethme said:

Don't you worry about gnats sister.  I've seen whole camels get away with murder, cutting people down mercilessly with their words. 

I like your mexed mitaphors!