Should you divorce if you're not in love

[Justin Adams]

1 minute ago, johnthebaptist said:

You said I extolled evil, when you know that I did no such thing.

Well I hope we watch our words carefully. Satan, principalities and powers etc. do NOT have any legitimate rule after the Cross.

All things are under the feet of our Lord Yeshua/Jesus. Get used to saying that instead. Our Lord is King of Kings and our High Priest.

[johnthebaptist]

3 minutes ago, Justin Adams said:

Well I hope we watch our words carefully. Satan, principalities and powers etc. do NOT have any legitimate rule after the Cross.

All things are under the feet of our Lord Yeshua/Jesus. Get used to saying that instead. Our Lord is King of Kings and our High Priest.

You accused me of extolling evil.

[Justin Adams]

2 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said:

You accused me of extolling evil.

You did say "The world is ruled by Satan"

This is not true!

[johnthebaptist]

19 minutes ago, Justin Adams said:

You did say "The world is ruled by Satan"

This is not true!

We know that we are of God, and the whole world is in the power of the evil one. 1 John 5:19 RSV 

[30] I will no longer talk much with you, for the ruler of this world is coming. He has no power over me;
[31] but I do as the Father has commanded me, so that the world may know that I love the Father. Rise, let us go hence. John 14:30-31 RSV

[johnthebaptist]

33 minutes ago, Justin Adams said:

You did say "The world is ruled by Satan"

This is not true!

 

13 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said:

We know that we are of God, and the whole world is in the power of the evil one. 1 John 5:19 RSV 

[30] I will no longer talk much with you, for the ruler of this world is coming. He has no power over me;
[31] but I do as the Father has commanded me, so that the world may know that I love the Father. Rise, let us go hence. John 14:30-31 RSV

We are not of the world. We are of the kingdom of heaven. At least, that is the way it's supposed to be.

[Justin Adams]

5 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said:

We know that we are of God, and the whole world is in the power of the evil one. 1 John 5:19 RSV 

Nope. The Lord is seated at the Right Hand of Power. He is in charge of everything. Just because fallen humans wish to follow the way of evil is no cause for us to proclaim evil is in power. "the whole world" as quoted was the world that John knew. He did not know about all the world in his day. Not as we do now. In John's day Rome was the whole world, yet Rome was defeated. We must think like the first century thought.

But we do and we have seen the spread of the Gospel most everywhere.

Think about this: if evil was really in power, we would not have made any headway. But the Spirit of Yeshua is in power over all dominions, thrones and principalities.

God has ALWAYS been in power over the whole world. He chose to evangelize thru us as His Kings and Priest on the earth. It is up to us now until He comes.

Remember: the apostle said He has DISARMED the evil forces and bound the evil one and restricted him considerable.

[johnthebaptist]

12 minutes ago, Justin Adams said:

Nope. The Lord is seated at the Right Hand of Power. He is in charge of everything. Just because fallen humans wish to follow the way of evil is no cause for us to proclaim evil is in power. "the whole world" as quoted was the world that John knew. He did not know about all the world in his day. Not as we do now. In John's day Rome was the whole world, yet Rome was defeated. We must think like the first century thought.

But we do and we have seen the spread of the Gospel most everywhere.

Think about this: if evil was really in power, we would not have made any headway. But the Spirit of Yeshua is in power over all dominions, thrones and principalities.

God has ALWAYS been in power over the whole world. He chose to evangelize thru us as His Kings and Priest on the earth. It is up to us now until He comes.

Remember: the apostle said He has DISARMED the evil forces and bound the evil one and restricted him considerable.

Am I supposed to believe you, or am I supposed to believe the Bible?

[Justin Adams]

So, why does Jesus now call Satan "the ruler of this world"?
This phrase was the well-recognized short form of "the ruler of the darkness of this world," which Judaism used to refer to Satan, with "the darkness" referring to the world outside of Judaism; the Jews believed that Satan rules over the gentiles but not them.

What "world" was Jesus referring to when He said, "Now is the judgment of this world" (John 12:31)?
The entire world, of both gentiles and Jews.

So what was Jesus saying above?
To a crowd of both Jews and gentiles (see the hour has come), Jesus was declaring that the Jews are not immune to Satan's rule over sinners but that He - Jesus - will end Satan's rule and "draw all peoples to Myself" (John 12:32).

How?
As long as people remain guilty of their sins, Satan retains his grip on humanity. When Jesus pays on the cross - "lifted up from the earth" (John 12:32) - the death penalty due for those sins, Satan's grip will be cast off and Christians from "all peoples" will be drawn to Jesus for salvation that is in and through Him.

[Hopefully]

It’s clear to me God did not mean marriage for divorce giving only one reason (sexual sin) to allow it, and his disciple further says God didn’t give instructions on if one spouse is a nonbeliever but hey don’t divorce them either unless they want to go, yet there are disagreements here because people want to make divorce and remarriage ok. Very puzzling. 

[Desopixi Seilynam]

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If the husband initiated a divorce that a wife did not want,
there being no fornication by her, and marries another, it is adultery by the husband,
that woman is free to re-marry.

If the wife left, and the husband did not hope/wait for her, and has married another,
while the wife had not yet joined to another, has he not committed adultery?
They both are then guilty, and that wife has no husband to return to.
 
But if the husband is desiring and waiting for the wife to return, she should return,
if she marries another while the husband is waiting, she only is guilty.

 

And I think that if the Lord desires for those in such situations to have a mate,
it would be presented without any intervention or seeking,
it would be obvious, and for a believer in such situations,
the other person would definitely be a believer of similar maturity.

And when we.. 'think'.... of, being married, and.. intimacy,
if we are thinking of someone who is not our mate, that is adultery.
We would never find the correct real life mate while caught up with such thoughts.

By the Holy Spirit we do have self-control. Galatians 5:23-24.
It's part of our faith, part of what we should believe. 

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All things are literally under the feet of Christ.

Christ is a physical person who is sitting on a throne in a city on top of the sky.

One day He will come down through the sky, revealing all.