Before Life

[appy]

The problem with saying that our souls pre-existed, is that it is saying that our souls are equal with God.  God is NOT a created being, we humans are.  We are creation and all of us are one of a kind individuals. 

The suggestion of man pre-existing, before conception in the womb, points to reincarnation, which is unbiblical to boot.  Reincarnation does not come from the bible, but from worldly philosophy and new-age ideals.  There are no scriptures which speak of our souls as pre-existing before conception.

The fact that God foreknows us, means that He was involved in the creation of each person in the womb. Consider Psalm 139:13-15 (NIV)

For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made;    your works are wonderful, I know that full well. My frame was not hidden from you   when I was made in the secret place.

[missmuffet]

On 5/28/2021 at 2:33 PM, Riverwalker said:

No it doesn't mean that it means when we are conceived physically we are created Spiritualy/Soulishly. This body is temporary it will die and go back to the dust from whence it came.....but as Celine Deon sang, our hearts will go on and on

Not every Christian's body will go back to the dust. Some will be raptured. 

[Omegaman 3.0]

On 5/28/2021 at 2:44 PM, Arrabon said:

Not biblical, but neither is the trinity we all accept in theory, but never mentioned in the bible specifically.

It is not mentioned by name, no, but the concept is certainly there!

That is to say, that there are three persons mentioned in scripture, all of them said to be God, and there is only one God, so, the three persons are one God. However, it does not say there are only three persons of God, if there are more, then the Bible is silent about them.

[Arrabon]

9 hours ago, Omegaman 3.0 said:

It is not mentioned by name, no, but the concept is certainly there!

That is to say, that there are three persons mentioned in scripture, all of them said to be God, and there is only one God, so, the three persons are one God. However, it does not say there are only three persons of God, if there are more, then the Bible is silent about them.

Your absolutely right @Omegaman 3.0.

I was just making a point using the Trinity as an example, but certainly not questioning the presence, the existence, or the validity of the Trinity, which I have totally accepted in my own faith many many decades ago, and they are a very active ongoing part of my life.

May God bless you greatly in your continuing walk with Him.

My name is Arrabon

[Arrabon]

On 5/30/2021 at 12:33 AM, appy said:

The problem with saying that our souls pre-existed, is that it is saying that our souls are equal with God.

Most of us here @appy know that God is the creator of everything, including all of us.

God chose to say the things He did in scripture, I believe, so that we do understand our place with Him, and that His words help us understand we are far below Him as created beings, but nonetheless greatly loved and cared for, and He even said we were made in His image, which we are.

I'm so grateful that God says what He does in scripture, and that we can quote Him as Christ did, and have no agenda in our heart but His truth.

All through scripture we are reminded by God of our place with Him, of who He is as the "GREAT I AM," so there is no way I would ever even think of insinuating anyone being even close to a co-equal position with God.

That's what got "Lucifer" thrown out of heaven thinking He could be an equal or better with God.

God say's what he does, and we learn from it.

Jeremiah 1:4-5, (4)The word of the LORD came to me, saying: (5)“Before I formed you in the womb "I knew you", and before you were born I set you apart."

Job 37:5-6 "God does great things BEYOND OUR UNDERSTANDING."

God doesn't always expect us to understand all His words at once, but over time, and to sometimes just find glory in them and Glorify Him for speaking to us.

I am so glad to know that I wasn't just someone who happened along, but that He not only had a plan for me, Jeremiah 29:11-14, but that He chose to create m , and even far beyond that, grateful He was willing to tell me all about it, which even causes me to love Him more because I wasn't an accident or afterthought.

Psalm 139:13-15

13 "For You created my innermost parts;
You wove me in my mother’s womb.
14 I will give thanks to You, because I am awesomely and wonderfully made;"

PRAISE GOD!!!

My name is Arrabon

Edited May 31, 2021 by Arrabon

[appy]

20 hours ago, Arrabon said:

Most of us here @appy know that God is the creator of everything, including all of us.

I'm not sure what you're intending to say to me. Because my post was NOT about anyone not knowing that God is creator.