Yet Another Scientific Study Concludes COVID Is Likely Lab Engineered

[WorthyBot]

Dr. Stephen Quay and Berkeley physics professor Richard Muller revealed the findings in The Wall Street Journal Sunday, noting that “The most compelling reason to favor the lab leak hypothesis is firmly based in science.”

The scientists added that “COVID-19 has a genetic footprint that has never been observed in a natural coronavirus.”

The research points to the genome sequencing of the virus ‘CGG-CGG’, which is one of 36 sequencing patterns observed, but does not occur in nature.

“The CGG-CGG combination has never been found naturally. That means the common method of viruses picking up new skills, called recombination, cannot operate here,” the scientists assert.

“A virus simply cannot pick up a sequence from another virus if that sequence isn’t present in any other virus,” they add, while also noting that the CGG-CGG combination IS commonly used in ‘gain of function’ research, which is known to have been used with coronaviruses at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.  Source: Summit News

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[one.opinion]

Please be careful with responses like this. The CGG-CGG combination is not unique, has been known for over one year, and could have developed by natural mutation in addition to recombination. This is no proof of lab leak, and "yet another" is irresponsible.

[other one]

what was it known in??

[one.opinion]

What I meant was that the CGG-CGG double arginine at the furin cleavage site has been known since probably February of 2020. This is neither a cause for alarm, nor a "smoking gun" for human modification and release (accidental or intentional). I wish people - especially if you are responsible for this site - would think before they post. There is a very good reason that the opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal, written by two people not in virology, should taken with a grain of salt.

[Still Alive]

This whole thing is unravelling before our eyes. The Rand Paul vs Fouci thing is but one facet. And make no mistake, Fouci is in serious trouble. It's fallen apart. 

And now people are being outed for squelching positive results from ivermectin, Hydroxychloroquine, etc. And suddenly it is what we all knew it was almost from day one - an engineered virus out of the Wuhan Lab.

Except now we see that Fouci was involved. 

But It will be interesting to see how this plays out. A lot of folks are being vindicated right now. And the MSM. CDC and WHO, as well as a lot of "experts" have a lot of egg on their faces. 

That being said, if you get all your news from the MSM you may not be aware of much of this. They are more concerned with January 6th.

[Still Alive]

19 minutes ago, one.opinion said:

What I meant was that the CGG-CGG double arginine at the furin cleavage site has been known since probably February of 2020. This is neither a cause for alarm, nor a "smoking gun" for human modification and release (accidental or intentional). I wish people - especially if you are responsible for this site - would think before they post. There is a very good reason that the opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal, written by two people not in virology, should taken with a grain of salt.

Here is a fun one: I searched this: https://www.google.com/search?client=avast-a-1&q=CGG-CGG+double+arginine&oq=CGG-CGG+double+arginine

I then went to "news" to see who is reporting it. It is amazing what news organizations are completely missing from the list. It seems they are adhering to the ol' "If we don't report it, it didn't happen" mantra. Unfortunately for them, that only worked before the internet, as this search demonstrates.

[Still Alive]

26 minutes ago, one.opinion said:

What I meant was that the CGG-CGG double arginine at the furin cleavage site has been known since probably February of 2020. This is neither a cause for alarm, nor a "smoking gun" for human modification and release (accidental or intentional). I wish people - especially if you are responsible for this site - would think before they post. There is a very good reason that the opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal, written by two people not in virology, should taken with a grain of salt.

If I'm reading the article correctly and your post correctly, it appears you are merely disagreeing with the scientists they are quoting. I agree that we've known about this since feb of 2020. It's why I've gone with "created in a lab until demonstrated otherwise" since then. And it's never been demonstrated otherwise. 

 

[one.opinion]

2 hours ago, Still Alive said:

If I'm reading the article correctly and your post correctly, it appears you are merely disagreeing with the scientists they are quoting.

The original Worthy Bot post contained a major, misleading factual error.

On 6/7/2021 at 11:31 AM, WorthyBot said:

The research points to the genome sequencing of the virus ‘CGG-CGG’, which is one of 36 sequencing patterns observed, but does not occur in nature.

This is just not true.

On 6/7/2021 at 11:31 AM, WorthyBot said:

“The CGG-CGG combination has never been found naturally. That means the common method of viruses picking up new skills, called recombination, cannot operate here,” the scientists assert.

This isn't really untrue (except for the "never been found naturally" part), but it is misleading. The 12 nucleotide furin cleavage site could not have been directly copied, without modification, from another virus. This much is true. What this statement leaves out is the clear fact that a similar sequence could have been passed on to a viral "ancestor" of SARS-CoV-2 and mutated into CGG-CGG. 

I don't pay for WSJ, so don't have access to the original opinion piece. However, WorthyBot has posted this without any verification and called it "Yet Another Scientific Study Concludes COVID Is Likely Lab Engineered" which is just not true.

1. This was not a scientific study.

2. It did not reach the conclusion, merely stated reasons the two authors believed it to be so.

3. "Yet another" implies that there are more "scientific studies" that have reached this conclusion. There aren't - there are only opinions.

2 hours ago, Still Alive said:

It's why I've gone with "created in a lab until demonstrated otherwise" since then. And it's never been demonstrated otherwise. 

The furin cleavage site that exists in the SARS-CoV-2 is not optimized, as would have been done if it were intentional. It is short as far as furin cleavage sites go, and the addition of more positively-charge amino acids would have worked better for the purpose. It gets pretty iffy to imply that a perfectly reasonable rational explanation for natural occurrence (virus spillover) should be ignored in favor of a concerted effort of a coverup by China, WHO, Fauci, Bill Gates, and whoever else conspiracy theorists don't like.

There are a few possibilities for the origin of this virus, but they are not all equally probable. With the data we have currently available, an outbreak occurring from a virus doing what viruses are known to do (and have done repeatedly in the past) seems the most probable of the possibilities.

Real virologists

Edited June 9, 2021 by one.opinion

[Still Alive]

1 minute ago, one.opinion said:

It gets pretty iffy to imply that a perfectly reasonable rational explanation for natural occurrence (virus spillover) should be ignored in favor of a concerted effort of a coverup by China, WHO, Fauci, Bill Gates, and whoever else conspiracy theorists don't like.

IMO, their words them self call their comments into question. You don't have to be a conspiracy theorist to come to that conclusion. It's like listening to a teenager tell a story that makes no sense. It's because they are lying. 

 

You get a feel for this as you age.

[one.opinion]

2 minutes ago, Still Alive said:

It's like listening to a teenager tell a story that makes no sense. It's because they are lying. 

Except for the part that the natural origin "story" makes perfect sense - and has occurred repeatedly - and there is no evidence that anyone has lied.