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On 7/5/2021 at 12:13 PM, appy said:

 

I've already mentioned back on the first page of the thread the above as a reason for a divorced person to be free to remarry, aside from abuse or adultery. Especially if the unbelieving spouse remarried. There is no hope for reconciliation of the marriage. We can safely assume that an unbeliever is NOT going to abstain from dating and remarrying soon after a divorce. The marriage has been severed not only by the divorce, but also by the unbelieving spouse remarrying. The Christian is no longer bound to the unbelieving spouse.

1 Corinthians 7:15
But if the unbeliever leaves, let it be so. The brother or the sister is not bound in such circumstances; God has called us to live in peace.

 

You are assuming that not being bound in such cases refers to remarriage; but, it says no such thing!  What it says is that you can let the unbeliever leave (you are not bound to contest it).  It says NOTHING about remarriage.

Verse 10 does say something about remarriage.  Here's what the passage says, in context.

1 Cor. 7:10-16 (NKJV)

10    Now to the married I command, yet not I but the Lord: A wife is not to depart from her husband.11 But even if she does depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband. And a husband is not to divorce his wife.
12    But to the rest I, not the Lord, say: If any brother has a wife who does not believe, and she is willing to live with him, let him not divorce her.13 And a woman who has a husband who does not believe, if he is willing to live with her, let her not divorce him.14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband; otherwise your children would be unclean, but now they are holy.15 But if the unbeliever departs, let him depart; a brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases. But God has called us to peace.16 For how do you know, O wife, whether you will save your husband? Or how do you know, O husband, whether you will save your wife? 
 

So, if a Christian is married to an unbeliever, he/she may allow the unbeliever to leave; but he/she must remain single, or be reconciled to the spouse, if possible, and is not allowed to remarry.

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What happens when you join yourself to a husband...like I did when I was a non believer?

I am divorced x2..when I became born again, I knew my husbands weren’t from God...I chose them, but he allowed it because he won’t force.

When I became a child of God...straight away I knew in my spirit that I must wait on the Lord for a husband, my hearts desire was to be joined to my true love..

my first true love is Jesus.

i have been waiting  30 yrs for my husband , I know in my spirit it will come to pass, there is no doubt whatsoever..,??


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9 hours ago, David1701 said:

You are assuming that not being bound in such cases refers to remarriage; but, it says no such thing!  What it says is that you can let the unbeliever leave (you are not bound to contest it).  It says NOTHING about remarriage.

Verse 10 does say something about remarriage.  Here's what the passage says, in context.

1 Cor. 7:10-16 (NKJV)

10    Now to the married I command, yet not I but the Lord: A wife is not to depart from her husband.11 But even if she does depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband. And a husband is not to divorce his wife.
12    But to the rest I, not the Lord, say: If any brother has a wife who does not believe, and she is willing to live with him, let him not divorce her.13 And a woman who has a husband who does not believe, if he is willing to live with her, let her not divorce him.14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband; otherwise your children would be unclean, but now they are holy.15 But if the unbeliever departs, let him depart; a brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases. But God has called us to peace.16 For how do you know, O wife, whether you will save your husband? Or how do you know, O husband, whether you will save your wife? 
 

So, if a Christian is married to an unbeliever, he/she may allow the unbeliever to leave; but he/she must remain single, or be reconciled to the spouse, if possible, and is not allowed to remarry.

If an unbeliever leaves the marriage and remarries, according to scripture (Matthew 19:9) he or she has committed adultery by marrying another.   Most agree that adultery is the exception for divorce.   It is also the exception for the INNOCENT party to remarry.

The 1 Corinthians 7 passages speak of people who WANT to leave a marriage.   A totally different situation than having a spouse that cheated on the marriage.

The allowance for remarriage after divorce is God’s mercy for the one who was sinned against, NOT for the one who committed adultery or unrepentant spousal abuse.

 


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There were 5 reasons for divorce in the OT. Jesus was assuredly speaking to those who knew this. Why did he ignore the other reasons?

 


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On 6/30/2021 at 1:33 AM, SIC said:

Let me clarify further.

In your opinion is marrying a divorcee whose divorce happened not because of abuse or adultery biblically permitted?

No, I don't believe that would be Biblical.

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Is marrying a divorcee biblical?

No. Only those who are widow can remarry.


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On 7/7/2021 at 1:23 PM, David1701 said:

So, if a Christian is married to an unbeliever, he/she may allow the unbeliever to leave; but he/she must remain single, or be reconciled to the spouse, if possible, and is not allowed to remarry.

But if the unbeliever departs and marries another, then they have committed adultery.
Therefore the believer who was departed from can at that point marry another.

Therefore the believer must remain single so long as the unbeliever who departed is still single (and that is that they are not having relations with anyone, not the worlds definition of single) , and wait and hope that they return, but if they marry another (or have relations with another), adultery then applies and the believer would be free to remarry at that point.

 

Sex without any intention of being forever committed to the person is a sin.
Therefore if the true intention is to be forever committed,
then there is no reason to not go through with a marriage ceremony.
But to be in true love, and have relations before the marriage ceremony is not a sin,
so long as there is eventually a marriage ceremony, or legal marriage,
and the two stay committed together forever.
God is concerned about the intention of the heart not about a legalistic ceremony.

 

"Isaac brought Rebekah into his mother Sarah's tent (his dead mothers empty tent)
and took her, and she became his wife"  Genesis 24:67

"If you entice a maid and lie with her, you shall surely endow her to be your wife."
Exodus 22:16


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6 hours ago, Desopixi Seilynam said:

But if the unbeliever departs and marries another, then they have committed adultery.
Therefore the believer who was departed from can at that point marry another.
 

That is a non-sequitur.

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Therefore the believer must remain single so long as the unbeliever who departed is still single (and that is that they are not having relations with anyone, not the worlds definition of single) , and wait and hope that they return, but if they marry another (or have relations with another), adultery then applies and the believer would be free to remarry at that point.

This opinion also does not follow.

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Sex without any intention of being forever committed to the person is a sin.
Therefore if the true intention is to be forever committed,
then there is no reason to not go through with a marriage ceremony.
But to be in true love, and have relations before the marriage ceremony is not a sin,
so long as there is eventually a marriage ceremony, or legal marriage,
and the two stay committed together forever.
God is concerned about the intention of the heart not about a legalistic ceremony.

This is simply false teaching and a pathetic excuse for fornication.  If you truly love someone, then you will not want to lead that person into the sin of fornication.

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"Isaac brought Rebekah into his mother Sarah's tent (his dead mothers empty tent)
and took her, and she became his wife"  Genesis 24:67

"If you entice a maid and lie with her, you shall surely endow her to be your wife."
Exodus 22:16

 

These quotes do not make your point.


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On 7/10/2021 at 1:06 PM, Josheb said:

Do please provide scripture supporting this statement. 

I did. Genesis 24:67 and Exodus 22:16

 

On 7/10/2021 at 1:06 PM, Josheb said:

it is marriage that teaches love,

The marriage ceremony teaches love?
Or you mean living together as a married couple teaches love?

You don't have to go through a ceremony to be committed,
surely the ceremony is just a ceremony and commitment is commitment.

Again:

Genesis 24:67 Isaac took Rebekka into his mothers tent and took her,
before they went through the ceremony.

Exodus 22:16 specifically says that if you lie with a women you shall surely endow her to be your wife. A clear passage regarding sex before the ceremony.

Grace grace grace, but when it comes to marriage be sure to be legalistic?


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On 7/10/2021 at 12:51 PM, David1701 said:

This is simply false teaching and a pathetic excuse for fornication.  If you truly love someone, then you will not want to lead that person into the sin of fornication.

If two fall in love, have sex with each other and then never have sex with anyone else for as long as they live, that is fornication simply because they have not gone through a ceremony?  No it is not.

 

The verses given clearly back up that notion.

If you entice a maid that is not betrothed and lie with her,
you shall surely endow her to be your wife.
Exodus 22:16.

There it is written down in scripture; sex before the ceremony,
it's ok so long as marriage (which is not a ceremony, but rather a life long commitment to each other) happens.

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