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2 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

I've also pondered why both the lost and saved will be resurrected in physical bodies.

Physical bodies?  Scripture, please. 

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9 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

Daniel 12:2 (KJV) And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

For His reasons and will, God desired two families, a spiritual family created first, then a physical family.

Hi, Dennis…. This is my understanding from my studies.  

The book of Revelation is a sister book to the book of Daniel, and both of these books have many references to the end-times; much is written to the people who live in the final generation—Today.

I think there is a two-fold meaning in Daniel 12:2. The first is in dealing with those of God's elect who will not follow false doctrine and who will not be deceived by the antichrist—those who know the truth and will stand fast for Jesus Christ. The second is that there will be great shame for those who are deceived and worship the antichrist (Satan).

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15 minutes ago, Selah7 said:

Physical bodies?  Scripture, please. 

I have no need to respond to an open-ended question. If you could take the time to be more specific, that would be beneficial. What's the difference between our current physical bodies, our future glorified bodies, and the bodies of the damned when they are raised? 

I'll make an exception and "guess" what you're fishing for? I hope the following is sufficient to support my personal hermeneutic viewpoint?

John 5:28 (KJV) Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice

I think all means all?

1 John 3:2 (KJV) Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

John 20:27 (KJV) Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.

A 3D physical glorified body.

Daniel 12:2 (KJV) And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

Matthew 10:28 (KJV) And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Note bodies in hell.

Matthew 22:23 (KJV) The same day came to him the Sadducees, which say that there is no resurrection, and asked him,

A popular concept and belief today.

Acts 24:14 (KJV) But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets: 15. And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.

Resurrection: RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD—will be simultaneous both of the just and the unjust (Dan. 12:2; John 5:28, 29; Rom. 2:6–16; 2 Thess. 1:6–10). The qualities of the resurrection body will be different from those of the body laid in the grave (1 Cor. 15:53, 54; Phil. 3:21); but its identity will nevertheless be preserved. It will still be the same body (1 Cor. 15:42–44) which rises again.

M. G. Easton, Illustrated Bible Dictionary and Treasury of Biblical History, Biography, Geography, Doctrine, and Literature (New York: Harper & Brothers, 1893), 582.

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6 minutes ago, Selah7 said:

Hi, Dennis…. This is my understanding from my studies.  

The book of Revelation is a sister book to the book of Daniel, and both of these books have many references to the end-times; much is written to the people who live in the final generation—Today.

I think there is a two-fold meaning in Daniel 12:2. The first is in dealing with those of God's elect who will not follow false doctrine and who will not be deceived by the antichrist—those who know the truth and will stand fast for Jesus Christ. The second is that there will be great shame for those who are deceived and worship the antichrist (Satan).

I agree. One cannot fully understand the book of Revelation without understanding Daniel chapters 9 & 12 in general, and Daniel 9:24-27 specifically, and the comparisons with Revelation. 

But, this was not in the scope of the question that was asked, that I gave my thoughts on.


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1 hour ago, Dennis1209 said:

I've also pondered why both the lost and saved will be resurrected in physical bodies.

Oops.  Let me go read what you posted.  Thanks!

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1 hour ago, Dennis1209 said:

I've also pondered why both the lost and saved will be resurrected in physical bodies.

Where in the Bible do you find that anyone will be resurrected in a physical body?

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… continued …


This is a worthy scripture, Dennis.  :)

1 Corinthians 15:50

50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.


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7 minutes ago, Selah7 said:

Where in the Bible do you find that anyone will be resurrected in a physical body?

Yeshua was and He was THE First Fruit.

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10 minutes ago, Justin Adams said:

Yeshua was and He was THE First Fruit.

Did Jesus sleep in the dust? 

Did his body show decay? 

Worthy to note:

Does the scripture say "First fruit" or "First fruits"? 

Does that matter to you or to the ones who does not want to say what the scripture say "the first fruits", which is many and not one. 

"First fruits" then does not apply to Jesus who is one. 

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On 7/20/2021 at 2:46 PM, Resurrection Priest said:

My question is for those who believe there will be a resurrection of both the just and the unjust at the Glorious Return of Christ.

Why a resurrection, IF those dead in Christ are living in the Heavenly realm (without any body or with the "spiritual body"),

and those dead NOT in Christ went to Hades/Hell?

I'm seriously asking.  What is the teaching on this?  Do the dead need to be resurrected, so they can have bodies, so they can live on this physical earth?  Is that why they need to be resurrected? 

I see in 2Cor 5:1-8, that there's a physical mortal tent (in which we groan) AND there's the "spiritual body" - the new tent prepared by God.  I also see a state of nakedness.  What is that?  Is that death?  Is that Hell?  In your view. 

I'm trying to understand the NEED FOR resurrection. 

Thanks   

 

Have you read? Why Does The Resurrection Matter? (godlife.com)

Love, Walter

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