REALITY CHECK: IS THE DELTA VARIANT REALLY THAT MUCH WORSE than before?

[one.opinion]

15 minutes ago, Still Alive said:

i.e. I don't trust the numbers at all. 

I understand that, it will be interesting to see if many other counties start readjusting their numbers. I'm not 100% confident in the numbers either, but they are currently the best estimate we have. Maybe start with official numbers in your city or county. Talk to officials if you think they are making stuff up.

What is odd is that you trust everything in the "Sweden is vindicated" story, but still "don't trust the numbers at all". It sounds like your trust is selected according to a predetermined bias.

Edited July 24, 2021 by one.opinion

[just_abc]

2 hours ago, one.opinion said:

These data do seem to indicate that the delta variant may be more of a concern for vaccinated individuals than previously thought, but the data just do not match the conclusions stated in the title.

An article on BBC website which might have some info perhaps..  

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57610998

Thanks.

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[Sparks]

2 hours ago, one.opinion said:

It sounds like your trust is selected according to a predetermined bias.

The irony. 

Do you trust the whistleblower who swore under oath that it was 45,000 killed by the vaccine, spotted in the CMS database?  I could point you to the affidavit.  Apparently, there are 12 government agencies tracking vaccine deaths, and VAERS was only one of them.

[one.opinion]

31 minutes ago, Sparks said:

Do you trust the whistleblower who swore under oath that it was 45,000 killed by the vaccine, spotted in the CMS database?

No - because I have not seen evidence for it. If it has yet to become clear to you, my opinion is shaped by evidence - not by empty claims, quotes, or lawsuits.

Send me evidence (a link is easiest) about the CMS database and the 45,000 deaths and I will take a look at it. What I have seen so far is only that a lawsuit was going to be filed.

[Sparks]

39 minutes ago, one.opinion said:

No - because I have not seen evidence for it. If it has yet to become clear to you, my opinion is shaped by evidence - not by empty claims, quotes, or lawsuits.

Send me evidence (a link is easiest) about the CMS database and the 45,000 deaths and I will take a look at it. What I have seen so far is only that a lawsuit was going to be filed.

Perhaps you don't realize that a sworn affidavit is genuine evidence for a court case? 

[one.opinion]

12 minutes ago, Sparks said:

Perhaps you don't realize that a sworn affidavit is genuine evidence for a court case? 

I don’t find semantic arguments convincing, either.

[Sparks]

50 minutes ago, one.opinion said:

I don’t find semantic arguments convincing, either.

Imagine if the lying Main Stream Media gave the same sworn written statement of facts, made under oath, and under penalty of perjury, that their statements were true every time they wrote a story.   There would be no Main Stream Media left, in mere hours.

For that matter, imagine how different every 'evolution theory' thread would look if those scientists who made those false claims about evolution faced fines and 10 years in jail for every lie they were caught in, since none of it could stand up in a court like this whistleblower's testimony will.

[Alive]

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