Prove All Things....

[Tammy Roesch]

"Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." 1 Thessalonians 5:21.

With all the MISINFORMATION out there, it's very difficult to "PROVE ALL THINGS". Nearly impossible to ALWAYS know who is telling the TRUTH & who is LYING.

Thankfully, when we read the Bible, we don't have to PROVE ALL THINGS....because the Bible is TRUE, it never LIES. What we do have to PROVE are the human interpretations put on the Bible. Our job is to determine, with the help of the Holy Spirit, which interpretations are TRUE and which interpretations are LIES and to "HOLD FAST" to the true ones.

There are many parts of the Bible that are not hard to understand, even a child can understand them, they are as CLEAR AS NOON DAY.

And then there are other parts that are not so clear, and that is where we often read other humans understanding of those parts and that is where we must PROVE ALL THINGS.

Edited July 24, 2021 by Tammy Roesch
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[Not me]

8 minutes ago, Tammy Roesch said:

"Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." 1 Thessalonians 5:21.

With all the MISINFORMATION out there, it's very difficult to "PROVE ALL THINGS". Nearly impossible to ALWAYS know who is telling the TRUTH & who is LYING.

Thankfully, when we read the Bible, we don't have to PROVE ALL THINGS....because the Bible is TRUE, it never LIES. What we do have to PROVE are the human interpretations put on the Bible. Our job is to determine, with the help of the Holy Spirit, which interpretations are TRUE and which interpretations are LIES and to "HOLD FAST" to the true ones.

There are many parts of the Bible that are not hard to understand, even a child can understand them, they are as CLEAR AS NOON DAY.

And then there are other parts that are not so clear, and that is where we often other humans understanding of those parts and that is where we must PROVE ALL THINGS.

‘Wisdom is justified by her children’

Be blessed in the wisdom that comes from above… 

A fellow believer, Not me 

[Sower]

4 hours ago, Tammy Roesch said:

And then there are other parts that are not so clear, and that is where we often read other humans understanding of those parts and that is where we must PROVE ALL THINGS.

"we often read other humans understanding of those parts"

And some create a whole new doctrine/denomination with their "human understandings"

[Alive]

3 hours ago, Tammy Roesch said:

"Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." 1 Thessalonians 5:21.

With all the MISINFORMATION out there, it's very difficult to "PROVE ALL THINGS". Nearly impossible to ALWAYS know who is telling the TRUTH & who is LYING.

Thankfully, when we read the Bible, we don't have to PROVE ALL THINGS....because the Bible is TRUE, it never LIES. What we do have to PROVE are the human interpretations put on the Bible. Our job is to determine, with the help of the Holy Spirit, which interpretations are TRUE and which interpretations are LIES and to "HOLD FAST" to the true ones.

There are many parts of the Bible that are not hard to understand, even a child can understand them, they are as CLEAR AS NOON DAY.

And then there are other parts that are not so clear, and that is where we often read other humans understanding of those parts and that is where we must PROVE ALL THINGS.

Did you have something specific in mind?

[Tammy Roesch]

No, not at all.  My husband and I were just talking about this topic this morning....he is naturally much more critical minded that I am...and PROVES ALL THINGS.

[Tammy Roesch]

29 minutes ago, Sower said:

"we often read other humans understanding of those parts"

And some create a whole new doctrine/denomination with their "human understandings"

You are so right!

[enoob57]

The Lord expects us to follow the grammatical makeup of that which is written, then the historical, cultural, theological makeup of the people where the writing is occurring (this the literary context) and once this is done we have through obedience to this command

2 Timothy 2:15 (KJV) [15] Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

now it is up to the Holy Spirit to bless and foundation us into this blessed gift called The Scripture renewing the mind to right thinking....

[debrakay]

It wasn't until I was born again and felt the power and voice of the Holy Spirit in my life that I began to understand more and more of scripture.  That has been 40 plus years and I continue to learn as I seek and study.  It was just in the past week I learned that even though we are taught that Jesus was a carpenter, the word used is:

Ancient Greek noun tektōn (τέκτων), a common term for an artisan/craftsman, in particular a carpenter, woodworker, or builder.

Archaeology digs show that buildings from the time of Jesus were made of stone with very little wood used.  Of course there would have been furniture and other things that were made from wood but wood was not primarily used more than stone.  Throughout time Jesus was been declared a carpenter, like Joseph, but now I will prefer to call him a "builder" because it seems to be that is exactly what he did and still does.  He builds.  He is also my "chief cornerstone".

1 Peter 2:4-7 (NIV) As you come to him, the living Stone—rejected by humans but chosen by God and precious to him—you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house of the Spirit to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. For in Scripture it says:
“See, I lay a stone in Zion,
a chosen and precious cornerstone,
and the one who trusts in him
will never be put to shame.”
Now to you who believe, this stone is precious. But to those who do not believe, “The stone the builders rejected has become the cornerstone,”

Psalms 118:22 (NIV)
The stone the builders rejected has become the cornerstone;

In Ancient Hebrew the word stone is:  stone    אֶ֭בֶן  (e·ven)    68: a stone    a prim. root

I also recently did a study on Mary Magdalene.  I had no idea it was Pope Gregory the Great (not so great for this big blunder) who filled everyone's head with the false claim that she was a prostitute.  He declared this to the Catholic church back in the 600's AD and the whole church and world bought into the false claim for close to 1400 years!  It was not until 1969 the Catholic church recanted the claim but Mary's reputation had been damaged for too long.  Pope Gregory, as well as all teachers of the word of God, best be "Proving all things" because false claims really make a mess for the church and for all the people, both believer and non-believer.  As his disciples in the world today, we need to let the power of the Holy Spirit guide us to truth and be sure of the proof we find before blasting the world with our words and not God's.  No bending.  No swaying.  Feet firmly planted in the knowledge and wisdom he gives.  Remember, God is the same, yesterday, today, and forever.  He does not change but he does reveal the truth.

Job 12:22 (NIV) He reveals the deep things of darkness and brings utter darkness into the light.

Daniel 2:22 (NIV)
He reveals deep and hidden things; he knows what lies in darkness, and light dwells with him.

Jesus says in Matthew 11:27 and Luke 10:22 (NIV) “All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him."

I Corinthians 2:10 (KJV) But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

[Tammy Roesch]

 

Nice to meet you DebraKay  .  I'm not Catholic so I know nothing of what the Pope said about Mary Magdalene but the Bible says, "And certain women, which had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities, Mary called Magdalene, out of whom went seven devils," Luke 8:2.

And then Matthew 21:31 says, "Whether of them twain did the will of hisfather? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you."

And then remember how when Simon the Pharisee had a big dinner for Jesus and His disciples ~ Well, that woman that washed the feet of Jesus was Mary Magdalene...and Simon was thinking, "If Jesus was really the Christ, He wouldn't let such a sinful woman touch Him."  Jesus read his thoughts and told him the following ~ 

I believe that Mary Magdalene was a Prostitute...but she repented and was forgiven :).

 

 

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Luk 7:36  And one of the Pharisees desired him that he would eat with him. And he went into the Pharisee's house, and sat down to meat.

Luk 7:37  And, behold, a woman in the city, which was a sinner, when she knew that Jesus sat at meat in the Pharisee's house, brought an alabaster box of ointment,

Luk 7:38  And stood at his feet behind him weeping, and began to wash his feet with tears, and did wipe them with the hairs of her head, and kissed his feet, and anointed them with the ointment.

Luk 7:39  Now when the Pharisee which had bidden him saw it, he spake within himself, saying, This man, if he were a prophet, would have known who and what manner of woman this is that toucheth him: for she is a sinner.

Luk 7:40  And Jesus answering said unto him, Simon, I have somewhat to say unto thee. And he saith, Master, say on.

Luk 7:41  There was a certain creditor which had two debtors: the one owed five hundred pence, and the other fifty.

Luk 7:42  And when they had nothing to pay, he frankly forgave them both. Tell me therefore, which of them will love him most?

Luk 7:43  Simon answered and said, I suppose that he,to whom he forgave most. And he said unto him, Thou hast rightly judged.

Luk 7:44  And he turned to the woman, and said unto Simon, Seest thou this woman? I entered into thine house, thou gavest me no water for my feet: but she hath washed my feet with tears, and wiped them with the hairs of her head.

Luk 7:45  Thou gavest me no kiss: but this woman since the time I came in hath not ceased to kiss my feet.

Luk 7:46  My head with oil thou didst not anoint: but this woman hath anointed my feet with ointment.

Luk 7:47  Wherefore I say unto thee, Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much: but to whom little is forgiven, the same loveth little.

Luk 7:48  And he said unto her, Thy sins are forgiven.

Luk 7:49  And they that sat at meat with him began to say within themselves, Who is this that forgiveth sins also?

Luk 7:50  And he said to the woman, Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace.

 

 

[Alive]

THere is nothing in scripture that tells us Magdalene was a prostitute.

Please show me this in scripture.

I ask in part because the OP is titled 'Prove All Things'.