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On 7/29/2021 at 7:34 PM, Abdull said:

when i had my revelation and discovered god i sought out to know the lies of this world, and i am curious is the world flat or no?

Einstein argued that gravity isn't a force at all. He described it as a curvature of time and space caused by mass and energy.  

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1 hour ago, JohnR7 said:

Einstein argued that gravity isn't a force at all. He described it as a curvature of time and space caused by mass and energy.  

And now gravity waves have been observed by scientists.

First observation of gravitational waves - Wikipedia

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On 7/29/2021 at 8:34 PM, Abdull said:

i am curious is the world flat or no?

I'm in doubt about it, but more and more I come being convinced that the Earth is flat.
There are some things in the Holy Scripture that seems to point to it.

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7 hours ago, Leonardo Von said:

I'm in doubt about it, but more and more I come being convinced that the Earth is flat.
There are some things in the Holy Scripture that seems to point to it.

that is because, when the Bible was penned and to whom it was written at the time, the accepted overall cosmological belief was that the earth was flat.   The Bible, not being a science book, used common words and phrases to get points across to the reader that would in a sense sound like it was saying the earth was flat....   but that isn't the context of what was being discussed within the scripture.   You can make the Bible say just about anything if one pulls scripture out of the context it is written in and take it literally.

 

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On 7/30/2021 at 10:12 PM, Sparks said:

I have not investigated Dr. Michael Heiser's work, I just commented about the fact that false doctrines are immediately mentioned when you search on his name.

Watch it or read Heiser's 'UNSEEN REALM'. Then decide.

It was Augustine's idea that began the Sethite ideas. Read unredacted text about him.

The Hebrew texts and the Qumran texts say "Sons of God". That is the true translation and rendering. You might not find Dispensational pre-mil and atheistic people agree to this. (Psalm 82, 89, etc.) Most in the current church are ignorant and poorly read. They let someone else make up their minds instead. That is a very bad idea. Do not check in your brain at the church door.

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On 7/30/2021 at 4:12 PM, Sparks said:

Was this addressed to anyone in particular?

Is there an echo in here?

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On 7/31/2021 at 4:05 AM, Michael37 said:

And now gravity waves have been observed by scientists.

Musk has taken our understanding of gravity to a whole new level of perfection. The additive and subtractive color theory are just a theory, yet we use them every day in many different ways. We read in the Bible: "five cubits high, ten cubits in diameter from brim to brim, and thirty cubits in circumference." This is the divine ratio that gravity is based on. 3.14 with the .14 being the thickness of the vessel. 

If someone somewhere wants to give us the math for a flat earth that would be fine. AS it is they have no math to support anything. We have to live in the real world and deal with the math we have to work with. 

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On 7/29/2021 at 9:36 PM, Sparks said:

It's flat in places, but the Bible mentions the world is spherical.  The pronunciation of the Jewish word below is khüg, and means sphere.   

Isaiah 40:22 (KJV) God sits above the circle of the earth. The people below seem like grasshoppers to him! He spreads out the heavens like a curtain and makes his tent from them.

The circle of the Earth can be the heavenly dome (also called "expanse"), which make separation between the waters which were under the expanse from the waters which were above the expanse (Gen 1:7)

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On 7/29/2021 at 6:34 PM, Abdull said:

when i had my revelation and discovered god i sought out to know the lies of this world, and i am curious is the world flat or no?

Isaiah 40:21-22

21 Have you not known?
Have you not heard?
Has it not been told you from the beginning?
Have you not understood from the foundations of the earth?

22 It is He who sits above the circle of the earth,
And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers,
Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain,
And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.

selah . . .

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Many a skeptic claims that the Bible depicts a flat earth. Scriptural references such as Revelation 7:1 are cited, which speaks of “four angels standing at the four corners of the earth.” Critics also point to Psalm 75:3, which says God holds “the pillars” of the earth firm. Other passages they claim teach a flat earth are Deuteronomy 13:7; Job 28:24; Psalm 48:10; and Proverbs 30:4; all of which reference the “ends” of the earth. Are the critics correct? Is the Bible “anti-science” in its teaching that the earth is flat?
The truth is, the Bible does not comment on the shape of Planet Earth. It does not say that the earth is flat, and it does not say that it is spherical. Let’s take a closer look at some of the commonly cited passages that supposedly depict a flat earth:

Revelation 7:1 says, “I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth.” In writing this, the apostle John was using idiomatic language—the “four corners of the earth” refer to “every distant location.” We use the same idiom today; for example, when we speak of Olympic athletes coming from the four corners of the earth to compete in the games, we mean they are coming from all over the world.

The book of Revelation is full of non-literal descriptions and symbolic language. To press Revelation 7:1 into a hyper-literal interpretation makes no sense. John simply says that, at one point during the tribulation, God will cause all wind to stop blowing. The “four corners” encompass the cardinal directions—north, south, east, and west. All wind will cease at God’s command.

Psalm 75:3 quotes God saying, “When the earth and all its people quake, it is I who hold its pillars firm.” Other passages also refer to the earth’s “pillars,” such as 1 Samuel 2:8, but in no case should the language be taken literally. The book of Psalms and Hannah’s song in 1 Samuel 2 are poetry. The writers liken the founding of the earth to the constructing of a house, and their descriptions are comparative (i.e., metaphorical), not literal. The point is not that the earth is flat but that the earth belongs to God; it is His construction, and He guarantees its stability. God’s “pillars” will not move, and His “roof” will not cave in. Even when the moral order of the world seems to have crumbled and people are overcome with fear, God will not fully withdraw His sustaining power.

What about the Bible’s references to the “ends of the earth” in Deuteronomy 13:7; Job 28:24; Psalm 48:10; Proverbs 30:4; and other passages? Does a reference to the “ends” of the earth teach that the earth has an edge and is therefore flat? We’ll take Deuteronomy 13:7 as representative of all the passages: here, Moses warns the people of “the gods of the peoples who are around you, whether near you or far off from you, from the one end of the earth to the other” (ESV).

A couple things can be said about the phrase the ends of the earth to show that it does not refer to a flat earth. First, that phrase, like the four corners of the earth, is idiomatic. We don’t expect people to take us literally when we speak of going “back to the drawing board”; neither should we force a literal interpretation on “the ends of the earth.” When biblical writers speak of the “ends of the earth” (28 times in the KJV), they are simply referring to “the farthest reaches of the inhabited world.”

Second, the phrase the ends of the earth at times refers to people, not to land. For example, Psalm 67:7 says, “May God bless us still, so that all the ends of the earth will fear him.” In this verse, the ends of the earth references the people who inhabit remote and distant places (see also Psalm 98:3 and Isaiah 45:22). Obviously, in this context the phrase is metaphorical and cannot be used to depict the earth as having a physical edge. The same phrase, used elsewhere, should also be considered figurative.

The Bible does not teach that the earth is flat. The references to the “earth” in the Bible are often not references to planetary earth but to a portion of dry land bound by water. For example, Genesis 1:10 says, “God called the dry land Earth, and the waters that were gathered together he called Seas” (ESV). “Earth” is mentioned as distinct from “Seas” and cannot refer to Earth as a planet; the same Hebrew word for “Earth” is used in Deuteronomy 13:7 and the other passages listed above.

While the Bible does not teach that the earth is flat, neither does the Bible explicitly teach that the earth is spherical. Some passages do allow for a spherical earth, such as Job 26:7 and Isaiah 40:22. In any event, the Bible is far from affirming a naïve or unscientific understanding of the earth and the solar system. There is simply no basis for the charge that the Bible teaches a flat earth. Passages that seem to present a flat earth can all be explained when correctly understood.

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