The New Testament's Demons Are As Real As It Gets.

[TheBlade]

The word of God unless I missed it does not tell us what demons are. We speculate based on things in OT and what Christ said. It would seem they have body (how ever you wish to say that) since they are always looking for a home.  Cast out will bring 7 more deadly then its self.  We know angels left their first estate and took women had children producing giant offspring called nephilim reserved in everlasting chains.

No where in the word does it say Angels fallen or not are disembodied or have no body. Its clear from the word there "body" so to speak is far superior to ours.  We know every gift the Father gives.. He does not take back.  So exactly what are demons? Its not written some think its all those that died durning the flood. What we don't know is how many of those were nephilim. Could have been hundreds to billions we don't know. All those nephilim that died were never meant to be.

 

Edited September 2, 2021 by TheBlade

[Hopefully]

Book of Enoch chapter 15 vs 8-11

8. And now, the giants, who are produced from the spirits and flesh, shall be called evil spirits upon the earth, and on the earth shall be their dwelling.

9. Evil spirits have proceeded from their bodies; because they are born from men, ⌈⌈and⌉⌉ from the holy Watchers is their beginning and primal origin; ⌈they shall be evil spirits on earth, and⌉ evil spirits shall they be called.

 [10. As for the spirits of heaven, in heaven shall be their dwelling, but as for the spirits of the earth which were born upon the earth, on the earth shall be their dwelling.]

 11. And the spirits of the giants afflict, oppress, destroy, attack, do battle, and work destruction on the earth, and cause trouble: they take no food, ⌈but nevertheless hunger⌉ and thirst, and cause offences. And these spirits shall rise up against the children of men and against the women, because they have proceeded ⌈from them⌉.

[Kelly2363]

3 minutes ago, Hopefully said:

Book of Enoch chapter 15 vs 8-11

8. And now, the giants, who are produced from the spirits and flesh, shall be called evil spirits upon the earth, and on the earth shall be their dwelling.

9. Evil spirits have proceeded from their bodies; because they are born from men, ⌈⌈and⌉⌉ from the holy Watchers is their beginning and primal origin; ⌈they shall be evil spirits on earth, and⌉ evil spirits shall they be called.

 [10. As for the spirits of heaven, in heaven shall be their dwelling, but as for the spirits of the earth which were born upon the earth, on the earth shall be their dwelling.]

 11. And the spirits of the giants afflict, oppress, destroy, attack, do battle, and work destruction on the earth, and cause trouble: they take no food, ⌈but nevertheless hunger⌉ and thirst, and cause offences. And these spirits shall rise up against the children of men and against the women, because they have proceeded ⌈from them⌉.

 

A blasphemous and demonic deception to direct believers away from Christ so as to serve a false god in Masoretic garments until we all attain to endless speculations about genealogies and celebration days. 

[Hopefully]

4 minutes ago, Kelly2363 said:

A blasphemous and demonic deception to direct believers away from Christ so as to serve a false god in Masoretic garments until we all attain to endless speculations about genealogies and celebration days. 

What is blasphemous and directing believers away from Christ?

[Justin Adams]

8 minutes ago, Kelly2363 said:

 

A blasphemous and demonic deception to direct believers away from Christ so as to serve a false god in Masoretic garments until we all attain to endless speculations about genealogies and celebration days. 

It is wrongheaded to oppose this Truth.

[Kelly2363]

6 minutes ago, Justin Adams said:

It is wrongheaded to oppose this Truth.

When by the grace of God I have that fight brother it will be in Jerusalem and not on a forum. Shalom.

[Justin Adams]

1 hour ago, Kelly2363 said:

When by the grace of God I have that fight brother it will be in Jerusalem and not on a forum. Shalom.

Not by might nor by power but by my Spirit..

The Hosts of Heaven do the Lord High God's bidding thru Yeshua who is all powerful.

[Starise]

There are angels chained until the day of judgement, but I don't think this is anywhere near all of the fallen angels. Angels are very numerous and 1/3 of them were cast from heaven. This means there are still LOTS of fallen angels here UNCHAINED. A percentage of them mated with human women or had some sort of a bonding with them that produced these giants. Even if we omit Enoch as a source we still have passages in the Bible that indicate this. " The sons of God went into the daughters of men and they bare children to them". Doesn't seem possible but somehow it was and is possible. That there have been more recent stories of giant sighting) i.e. the Afghanistan story) that if true would confirm they are still around here and there as a result of the same things happening that happened before the flood.

The other side loves that we don't always have a firm handle on what they all are since it just makes their objectives that much easier to accomplish.

There are some very weird things happening in the world that are sometimes almost too far fetched to believe, yet we have multiple examples from multiple sources confirming similar events. Mostly all level headed logical thinking people.  Then we have YouTube channels like Slapped Ham who will put up a lot of bogus videos ( even admitting many of them are thought to be hoaxes). This all further muddies the water of truth.

No matter what I see or read elsewhere the Bible confirms demons as a fact. Christians debate the level they are involved in the present sometimes attempting to say they aren't as common in the modern world. If anything I believe they are MORE apparent especially since we have a very large percentage of the population that thinks it's cool to dabble in it being bombarded by demonic fiction from the teen level on up along with various other Hollywood movies and shows attempting to romanticize vampires, witches, demons and the like. If this was all you took in you might think they are our friends here to help us or give us powers beyond our wildest imaginations. One doesn't go through a demonic satanic experimental phase and grow out of it if you called on them. The claws are in. You invited them.All they need is an invitation. It attached to you. If you aren't a believer it can toy with you and make your life miserable endlessly.

So far the book of Enoch has probably the best explanation for them I know of. If they seek a body and wander looking for one we can strongly infer they once HAD a body made for their spirit.Why else would they crave a body?