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1 minute ago, other one said:

Most of the people who died from the Spanish flu died from bacterial pneumonia according to a CDC article I read last week.    Two of the people I know personally that died from covid both had serious cases of pneumonia to go along with the virus.   No way to know which actually triggered their immune system that killed them.

We have antibacterials which work on pneumonia.  They do not work on viruses.  One thing that's a legitimate problem is the over prescribing of antibacterials (antibiotics).  This has the affect of reducing the effectiveness of antibiotics for treating diseases like pneumonia. 

[enoob57]

On 9/16/2021 at 4:05 PM, Waggles said:

Everybody, including Christians, will go through the coming great tribulation

God has said in His New Covenant The Testament of His Blood:

1 Thess 1:10

10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.
KJV

1 Thess 5:9

9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
KJV

Rev 6:16-17

16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
KJV
Just doesn't fit with Scripture so I'd let it go if I were you!

[other one]

8 hours ago, Saved.One.by.Grace said:

We have antibacterials which work on pneumonia.  They do not work on viruses.  One thing that's a legitimate problem is the over prescribing of antibacterials (antibiotics).  This has the affect of reducing the effectiveness of antibiotics for treating diseases like pneumonia. 

I know that, but the point is we have lost as many here in the US as with the Spanish Flu to spite having so many extra tools to fight it with.   It's true we have more people, but we also did the spacing and masks much earlier than they did in 1918.  It just doesn't seem to me that the Spanish Flu was a lot worse than Covid has been and Covid isn't over here in the US.  It was reported that we lost another 2,000 or so just yesterday. This wave of deaths is about as high as the first wave, and the cases are higher than the first wave, and could build to as high as the big second waves of November 2020 - February 2021.

My point is that this is a lot more serious than most people are admitting.

What really bothers me is that I do believe that the CCP created the virus and know what it's capable of and that's why they took and take such draconian measures to keep it from spreading there. 

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[Waggles]

17 hours ago, enoob57 said:

Just doesn't fit with Scripture so I'd let it go if I were you!

Thankfully I am not you, and I am able to read your cited verses  through the Holy Spirit and understand that 

For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, 1Thess 5:9

is not about a pre-tribulation rapture, but rather that the saints of the Spirit-filled church will be spared through faith and godliness from the wrath of our God that is coming upon a wicked world. 

That is why there will be a great falling away when the promised pre-tribulation rapture does not occur; and why Jesus asked when he returns will he find faith on the Earth? 

[other one]

1 hour ago, Waggles said:

is not about a pre-tribulation rapture, but rather that the saints of the Spirit-filled church will be spared through faith and godliness from the wrath of our God that is coming upon a wicked world. 

It's my understanding that the Beast will kill most of us before Gods wrath comes along.   The tribulation is not Gods wrath, but the Beasts and the Devil.   If my memory serves me correctly the number of souls under the alter dressed in white will be so many they can't be numbered. Those that refused to worship the beast and/or take his/her/its mark

[enoob57]

1 hour ago, Waggles said:

Thankfully I am not you, and I am able to read your cited verses  through the Holy Spirit and understand that 

Are you with the group that shuns study of Scripture? They say it is The Holy Spirit that speaks when you stand to teach the Word of God  

1 hour ago, Waggles said:

For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, 1Thess 5:9

is not about a pre-tribulation rapture, but rather that the saints of the Spirit-filled church will be spared through faith and godliness from the wrath of our God that is coming upon a wicked world. 

If you open you mind to what I have posted you'll see God's tribulation is the wrath of God poured out upon unregenerate man... not the Church their already in heaven as John's witness affirms 
 

Rev 4;4-11

4 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.

2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.

3 And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald.

4 And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold.

5 And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.

6 And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind.

7 And the first beast was like a lion, and the second beast like a calf, and the third beast had a face as a man, and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle.

8 And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.

9 And when those beasts give glory and honour and thanks to him that sat on the throne, who liveth for ever and ever,

10 The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying,

11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
KJV
 

[enoob57]

1 hour ago, Waggles said:

Thankfully I am not you, and I am able to read your cited verses  through the Holy Spirit and understand that 

 by the way this is a personal attack of my Christian standing... you are saying my understanding is not of The Holy Spirit please do not do this again as I can testify I have The Holy Spirit within me!

Rom 8:16

16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
KJV
I have received this from God to my heart and I do not wish for you to slander the witness God within ever... do I make myself clear?

[Waggles]

1 hour ago, enoob57 said:

I have received this from God to my heart and I do not wish for you to slander the witness God within ever... do I make myself clear?

People who live in glass houses should not throw stones.

If anybody attacks and derides others on this forum it would be you. 

Your constant put downs and denials of Pentecostal faith and praying in tongues is to your shame. And you feel free to deny the testimonies of Pentecostal Christians and disregard the work of the Holy Spirit as emotions and feelings and have implied that we are being deluded by the enemy. That tongues is not of God.

Do unto others as you would have others do unto you - do I make myself clear?

[enoob57]

19 minutes ago, Waggles said:

People who live in glass houses should not throw stones.

If anybody attacks and derides others on this forum it would be you. 

Your constant put downs and denials of Pentecostal faith and praying in tongues is to your shame. And you feel free to deny the testimonies of Pentecostal Christians and disregard the work of the Holy Spirit as emotions and feelings and have implied that we are being deluded by the enemy. That tongues is not of God.

Do unto others as you would have others do unto you - do I make myself clear?

because your refusal to withdraw personal attacks and ignore the TOS we are done in communication... however when one agrees to something and  violates it willingly that's on them.... discuss the topic not the person is ....