As in the Days of Noe.

[The Light]

7 hours ago, AandW_Rootbeer said:

Noah was not Removed, as he went through the entire Event!

Gen 7

17 And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth.

7 hours ago, AandW_Rootbeer said:

Lot, only found favor because of Abraham's intercession [no intercession, Lot is most likely dead from the destruction of S&G].

Which proves what? It does not change the fact that Lot left Sodom before destruction came.

Luke 17

29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.

30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

7 hours ago, AandW_Rootbeer said:

 

Obviously, you are exaggerating, when it's clear you have no Scriptural backing for what you're claiming!

Obviously, I have scriptural backing, but somehow, that is never good enough. 

Gen 7

17 And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth.

[Your closest friendnt]

10 hours ago, The Light said:

 But all scripture supports those that are taken go to the clouds and then to heaven, when the coming of the Son of Man occurs, which happens more than once.

What are you saying??????

Everything in the bible you call it scripture but not everything in the bible is the word of God.

That's why we have the RED LETTER bible. 

Have you ever go to the Greeks and asked them to read the passages you are disputing. 

The Greek languish is so rich that there is never two meanings present but only one.

And they are always framed with the context and not without it. 

SCRIPTURE READING

"For it is appointed to everyone to die first and after that the Judgment "

THIS CAN NEVER CHANGE 

You have written something contrary to that. 

Edited November 17, 2021 by Your closest friendnt

[AandW_Rootbeer]

2 hours ago, The Light said:

Gen 7

17 And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth.

That Clearly is exaggerated and stretched by all reason...WOW!!

 

The water causes the ARK to FLOAT and this is your proof?

 

hahahahaha 

2 hours ago, The Light said:

Which proves what? It does not change the fact that Lot left Sodom before destruction came.

Luke 17

29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.

30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

Obviously, I have scriptural backing, but somehow, that is never good enough. 

You have Scripture that does not bare PROOF of Abraham's Intercession and the REASON Lot is able to leave Sodom before the Destruction:

 

23And Abraham approached and said, "Will You even destroy the righteous with the wicked?

[The Light]

1 hour ago, AandW_Rootbeer said:

 

You have Scripture that does not bare PROOF of Abraham's Intercession and the REASON Lot is able to leave Sodom before the Destruction:

 

23And Abraham approached and said, "Will You even destroy the righteous with the wicked?

I'm not arguing about whether Abraham interceded for the righteous, as clearly he did.

However, again, that does not change the fact that Lot left Sodom before destruction came, which is what the whole point is about.

[Your closest friendnt]

1 hour ago, Josheb said:

Did not say that. The things described in Revelation 19 have nothing to do with what will happen to those taken away as it was in the days of Noah. In the days of Noah the ones taken away were destroyed. In the days of Noah it was the ones who were left behind that went on to live in a covenant relationship with God. 

So when Jesus says it will be like it was in the days of Noah where two people are working on a roof and one is taken away and one remains, or two are working in a field and one is taken away and the other remains he is not talking about a rapture where the ones taken away are rescued, saved, or taken into heaven. In the days of Noah the ones taken away were destroyed. Those remaining behind lived in a God initiated covenant relationship. 

Luke 17: 

20 Once, on being asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come,

Jesus replied, “The coming of the kingdom of God is not something that can be observed, 21 nor will people say, ‘Here it is,’ or ‘There it is,’because the kingdom of God is in your midst.”

***** the day of the Son of Man or the days of the Son of Man, began after Jesus Christ died on the Cross. 

Jesus Christ does not have to make appointments and announce his coming to be expected, even though he let's some of his select know, no one can tell him not to.

The first people to experience the day of the Son of Man it was Abraham and everyone else who was gathered with him.

Repeating imediatly after Jesus Christ died on the Cross then we can understand where Abraham and his children who were gathered to him had been waiting for the day that Jesus the Messiah the Christ of God will come to them.

Abraham had seen that day and rejoice. 

David had also who was gathered to Abraham as per Gods wishes had seen that day and was keeping a watch waiting to see him coming from a distance ( that's how he describe it.

John the Baptist one of the most dramatic figures or the most dramatic figures was sent first in the Jordan river for a mission beyond baptizing the people when in Jail Jesus Christ send him a message that his mission is not over he still had to go before him and to continue his mission to inform and identify him to Abraham and David of his coming to them, so John had to die before Jesus Christ and be gathered to Abraham and there he had to announce the coming of the Christ of God.

He must go before the Lord and announce his coming and identify him. John had the witness of God and the Holy Spirit that Jesus is the Christ of God. 

 

[The Light]

1 hour ago, AandW_Rootbeer said:

That Clearly is exaggerated and stretched by all reason...WOW!!

 

The water causes the ARK to FLOAT and this is your proof?

 

hahahahaha 

 

You can deny what the Word of God says all you want, but that does not change the FACT that it was Noah and the ark that left and the unrighteous remained to face destruction. There's always an excuse as to why what is written in the Word of God is not acceptable.

Gen 7

17 And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth.

[Your closest friendnt]

3 minutes ago, The Light said:

I'm not arguing about whether Abraham interceded for the righteous, as clearly he did.

However, again, that does not change the fact that Lot left Sodom before destruction came, which is what the whole point is about.

God saved him from the destruction to go and live in the mountain with his two daughters in A CAVE. 

His life it was than before he lost everything but his Life was spare.

 

[AandW_Rootbeer]

13 minutes ago, The Light said:

I'm not arguing about whether Abraham interceded for the righteous, as clearly he did.

However, again, that does not change the fact that Lot left Sodom before destruction came, which is what the whole point is about.

But, [how] was Lot able to Leave is most important to be considered a foreshadow of a pre-trib rapture.   And that is the point, Abraham's intercession for Lot is the [why] he was rescued.  

 

It Rains on the Just and unjust equally!

 

So the Intercession is the underlining factor for Lot's escape.

No Intercession, no escape for Lot.

 

 

Where is Abraham at for your Pre-Trib Rapture Theory?

Edited November 17, 2021 by AandW_Rootbeer

[iamlamad]

2 hours ago, Josheb said:

Did not say that. The things described in Revelation 19 have nothing to do with what will happen to those taken away as it was in the days of Noah. In the days of Noah the ones taken away were destroyed. In the days of Noah it was the ones who were left behind that went on to live in a covenant relationship with God. 

So when Jesus says it will be like it was in the days of Noah where two people are working on a roof and one is taken away and one remains, or two are working in a field and one is taken away and the other remains he is not talking about a rapture where the ones taken away are rescued, saved, or taken into heaven. In the days of Noah the ones taken away were destroyed. Those remaining behind lived in a God initiated covenant relationship. 

My point was that when Jesus mentioned Noah, He was not talking about who was taken and who was left: He was talking about people always living life to the fullest and in Noah's day, right up to the day they were destroyed.

37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. (This is the end of his thoughts on Noah.)

40  Then shall two be in the field...

(then WHEN? Noah? No, when He comes in the future.)

Therefore I disagree with you. It's not a big thing.

[AandW_Rootbeer]

11 minutes ago, The Light said:

Gen 7

17 And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth.

What am I denying?

 

The Moment enough water was under the Ark and it began to float, the ARK was above the Earth, dry ground, you know the Earth that God made Adam by.

 

Did God take Adam above the earth when God used the Earth to Form Adam?

NO!

 

 

You are seriously stretching the meaning here to and it was lift up above the earth!