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18 hours ago, FrankIeCip said:

Thanks for the reply. Makes sense. And do you know what in and out and find pasture means? 
John 10:9?  9I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture. Thanks again. 

Pasture to a sheep (us) is food for us and thus establishing our food is the Word of God and it must be to His Sheep as thus
Job 23:12 (KJV)
[12] Neither have I gone back from the commandment of his lips; I have esteemed the words of his mouth more than my necessary food.
1 Peter 2:2 (KJV)
[2] As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby
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As we have this witness within us we know by this 
Romans 8:16 (KJV) [16] The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
this is how the Word of God establishes past the reliance upon our own senses that we are His… for this hunger to know exists within us and our flesh is contrary to this so we fight to reckon our flesh indeed dead to the things of God and His Word the absolute all in our value system!

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Enoob thanks for the reply but that part I know. Going out is what I’m questioning really. Like is going out when we struggle with the flesh and going in of course is to go to Jesus for mercy and help? I know Jesus is the door. We go in to Him and He in us. But going out is what? We go in and out. What is going out? You know? Thanks again,Frank. ??


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On 11/1/2021 at 9:40 AM, FrankIeCip said:

Can someone please explain this. In season and out of season and in and out and find pasture? Anyone help me out with this?

If you were going to write your last letter to a dear friend, what would you write? In 2 Timothy, we get to see what may have been Paul’s final words to Timothy, his protégé and “son in the faith” (1 Timothy 1:2). In chapter 4, Paul gives Timothy a series of solemn exhortations, encouraging him to be faithful to the truth about God and Jesus Christ. Paul commands Timothy to “be ready in season and out of season” (2 Timothy 4:2, ESV). The whole command is this: “I charge you therefore before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, who will judge the living and the dead at His appearing and His kingdom: Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching” (2 Timothy 4:1–2, NKJV).

The word translated “ready” comes from the Greek word for “stand.” The idea is to always be “standing by,” always “on-duty,” “ready to go.” The word also carried a connotation of urgency in the original language. A good example might be a soldier standing at attention, attentive and ready to assist at any moment. Timothy was to “be ready in season and out of season,” constantly prepared to do whatever God is calling him to do (2 Timothy 4:2).

In the original language, the words for “in season and out of season” mean “timely and untimely” or “convenient and inconvenient.” The word for “in season” literally means “good time,” and “out of season” comes from the same word but with a different prefix, giving it the opposite meaning. Another occurrence of the same word is found in Mark 14:11, where Judas is looking for a “good time” or “opportunity” to betray Jesus.

By being “ready in season and out of season,” Timothy is prepared to engage in the actions Paul specified: “preach the word,” “correct,” and “rebuke and encourage” (2 Timothy 4:2). Timothy was to do these things whether it was convenient or not. In every circumstance, he should be ready to proclaim God’s truth. That was his job as a pastor, regardless of his personal feelings or the audience’s reactions (2 Timothy 4:3–5).

What about us today? Like Timothy, we are commanded to always be ready for God’s work (1 Peter 3:15; 1 Corinthians 16:13; Galatians 6:9–10). It is easy to “clock in” and “clock out” of our faith, erroneously believing that we represent God at church but not throughout the week. This was not an option for Timothy, and it is not an option for us. If you are a Christian, you are a “chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God’s special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light” (1 Peter 2:9). Whether we are speaking to a crowd or changing a tire, we should “be ready in season and out of season” to declare His praises and His truth to a watching world.

https://www.gotquestions.org/be-ready-in-season-and-out-of-season.html

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1 minute ago, FrankIeCip said:

Enoob thanks for the reply but that part I know. Going out is what I’m questioning really. Like is going out when we struggle with the flesh and going in of course is to go to Jesus for mercy and help? I know Jesus is the door. We go in to Him and He in us. But going out is what? We go in and out. What is going out? You know? Thanks again, Frank. ??

Sort of, but it is spiritual.

When we come to God the Father through Jesus our Lord and God in prayer - when we seek what we need in God - then we spiritually enter in to be fed and nurtured (green pasture and living waters). God is the shepherd of his church and tends to his sheep.

Going out is when we take our refreshing with us as we potter around in the world doing what we have to do.

Matthew 11:28  Come to me, all who labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 
29  Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 
30  For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.” 

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14 hours ago, Waggles said:

Going out is when we take our refreshing with us as we potter around in the world doing what we have to do.

This is exactly what I thought. Thank you bro. ??


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The passage you quoted reminds me of those times when I did something I didn't feel like doing because it was a demand placed on me. It seems like something that I am not prepared to do, yet God always provides the strength for anything He tells us to do. I have even felt energized by doing things I thought would exhaust me. Like a plant that isn't in fruit bearing season, we would not expect it to bear fruit, yet God gives us the strength as the branches on His tree to do what we are unable to do. Without Him it isn't possible to truly pull something out of nothing. Only He can do that.

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On 11/2/2021 at 2:31 AM, Waggles said:

Psalm 23:1  A Psalm of David. The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want. 
2  He makes me lie down in green pastures. He leads me beside still waters. 
3  He restores my soul. He leads me in paths of righteousness for his name's sake. 

Rev 7:9  After this I looked, and behold, a great multitude that no one could number, from every nation, from all tribes and peoples and languages, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, with palm branches in their hands, 
10  and crying out with a loud voice, “Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!” 
16  They shall hunger no more, neither thirst anymore; the sun shall not strike them, nor any scorching heat. 
17  For the Lamb in the midst of the throne will be their shepherd, and he will guide them to springs of living water, and God will wipe away every tear from their eyes.

Jesus truly is the door for no one can come unto the Father except through Jesus [the gate, the way] ... further when we pray in tongues (pray in the Spirit) we come into green pasture and living waters (spiritually).

Praying in the Spirit is not equivalent to praying in tongues.  You can pray in the Spirit in any language.  You can also pray in tongues in the Spirit, or in the flesh.

The rest of your post is good, however.

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9 hours ago, David1701 said:

Praying in the Spirit is not equivalent to praying in tongues.  You can pray in the Spirit in any language.  You can also pray in tongues in the Spirit, or in the flesh.

You are wrong and against scripture.


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11 hours ago, Waggles said:

You are wrong and against scripture.

You pray "in the Spirit", if your prayer is led by the Holy Spirit.  This obviously can be in any language.

If you pray in tongues, then you could be being led by the Holy Spirit; but, we must not take that for granted, after all, we are warned that if someone speaks in tongues, but does not have love (definitely not being led by the Holy Spirit), it does not profit him at all.


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54 minutes ago, David1701 said:

This obviously can be in any language.

NO.

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