Another Day in Paradise - Phil Collins

[Omegaman 3.0]

I have no reason to think that Phil Collins is a Christian. The lyrics to of this song are not secifically Christian. However, the story they tell are of a topic that Christians might want to reflect on as ask themselves:

"Is there something I can do?"

 

 

[missmuffet]

9 hours ago, Omegaman 3.0 said:

I have no reason to think that Phil Collins is a Christian. The lyrics to of this song are not secifically Christian. However, the story they tell are of a topic that Christians might want to reflect on as ask themselves:

"Is there something I can do?"

https://youtu.be/KiYNw5KKDiQ

 

I have posted this song before. I think it was deleted. I like this song that deals with the homeless and drug addicted. 

[R. Hartono]

On 11/8/2021 at 2:57 PM, Omegaman 3.0 said:

I have no reason to think that Phil Collins is a Christian. The lyrics to of this song are not secifically Christian. However, the story they tell are of a topic that Christians might want to reflect on as ask themselves:

"Is there something I can do?"

https://youtu.be/KiYNw5KKDiQ

 

Social Departments in our nation has Billion Dollars budget but most of them steal and pretend don't see this kind of situation.

The rich churches should join forces to help this poverty But they didnt.

 

[Omegaman 3.0]

14 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

The rich churches should join forces to help this poverty But they didnt.

and if individual Christians did their parts, then government programs and "rich churches" would not need to step in in most cases. "The poor you will have with you always" Jesus said. but that does not mean that we are not called to step up and help. The Bible's instructions on how to live are for individual. Institutions are not disciples, believers are.

Additionally, many who call themselves Christians, avoid churches, and in doing do, avoid giving financially much of the time. That is an extra opportunity to help with the money they have saved by not supporting their local church and it's causes. There are a lot of hypocrites out there, that like to shift responsibility onto others, whether it is charity, or preaching the gospel to the unsaved, these are things that true disciples do!

I find it strange, that many balk at the idea of giving ten percent to God's purposes. The often think that "we are under gracce" and "tithing was under the law. Both of those ideas are true. On the other had, tithing in the Bible in the old Testament was at least 23%. Wouldn't we expect that believers who are indwelled with the Holy Spirit, would happily out-give those under the law?

[Omegaman 3.0]

Lyrics

She calls out to the man on the street
"Sir, can you help me?
It's cold and I've nowhere to sleep
Is there somewhere you can tell me?"

He walks on, doesn't look back
He pretends he can't hear her
Starts to whistle as he crosses the street
Seems embarrassed to be there

Oh, think twice, 'cause it's another day for you and me in paradise
Oh, think twice, 'cause it's another day for you
You and me in paradise

Think about it

She calls out to the man on the street
He can see she's been crying
She's got blisters on the soles of her feet
She can't walk but she's trying

Oh, think twice, 'cause it's another day for you and me in paradise
Oh, think twice, it's just another day for you
You and me in paradise

Just think about it

Oh Lord, is there nothing more anybody can do?
Oh Lord, there must be something you can say

You can tell from the lines on her face
You can see that she's been there
Probably been moved on from every place
'Cause she didn't fit in there

Oh, think twice, 'cause it's another day for you and me in paradise
Oh, think twice, it's just another day for you
You and me in paradise

Just think about it
Mhm
Think about it

It's just another day for you and me in paradise
It's just another day for you and me in paradise (para-paradise)
Paradise
Ooh, just think about it
Paradise
Just think about it (para-paradise)
Paradise
Mhm, paradise
Paradise
Just another day

[R. Hartono]

3 hours ago, Omegaman 3.0 said:

I find it strange, that many balk at the idea of giving ten percent to God's purposes. The often think that "we are under gracce" and "tithing was under the law. Both of those ideas are true. On the other had, tithing in the Bible in the old Testament was at least 23%. Wouldn't we expect that believers who are indwelled with the Holy Spirit, would happily out-give those under the law?

Tithe nowadays has become stumbling Stones for the poor. 

This is not abt you can give 23 or 10%, but its abt Tithe being Biblical or not nowadays.

Christian God never asked money, your statement has mislead unbelievers to think so.

You don't see this poor nation is of the largest Arab religion, what they knew is that the church ask 10%. What a blind church claiming God demand 10% of our money. How many poor unbelievers were made discouraged to receive Salvation ? You should look at tithe from the eye of the poor not from your abundant condition.

 

Edited November 17, 2021 by R. Hartono

[Omegaman 3.0]

Thanks for your continued comments Hartono. I never expected that people would not receive encouragement to try to be more giving. I never said the early church asked people to tithe, but everyone reading this, can probably to afford to if they chose to.

1Jesus^a looked up and saw the rich putting their gifts into the offering box, 2and he saw a poor widow put in two small copper coins.^b 3And he said, “Truly, I tell you, this poor widow has put in more than all of them. 4For they all contributed out of their abundance, but she out of her poverty put in all she had to live on.”

People reading this somehow have internet, and computers, and phones, and electricity etc. usually have utilities and a roof over their head, That likely means that they can cut back on something. Smaller servings of food, ot less expensive foods, I would bet most could manage if they only had the heart to give.

No money? How about time, talent. Why are people poor? Some do not have work, Many of those likely have some time. For example, not to toot my own horn, but I had no income for a few years. So I painted rooms at our church grounds, vacuumed the carpets of other rooms there. I scrubbed their kitchen, I pulled weeds on the grounds. I would go to people's homes and clean their yards if they would donate something to the church. There are almost always ways to give to others, and to support ministries which support the poor.

Our church has a foodbank that hands out food to the poor, and a ministry that distributes clothes, and toiletries etc, to the needy. I have put in time in those ministries also, so there are plenty of ways to serve, even for most poor people. I am not an advocate of compelling tithing in the church. However, I am an advocate of supporting ministries, even churches, who provide for the spiritual and physical needs of those in their congregations and communities.

Christians are to be generous, one does not need to give money to be generous, there are lot's of ways generosity manifests itself, all I am suggesting it that those who have the Spirit will want to and try to help others, and to support those who do. Some things cost money, and those who have some might want to not be stingy with it, after all, everything we have, belongs to God anyway.

[Bawb]

20 hours ago, Omegaman 3.0 said:

and if individual Christians did their parts, then government programs and "rich churches" would not need to step in in most

 

Who are these "rich churches" anyway? Do you mean the RCC? Do you mean Joel Osteen's "Church"? Do you mean any number of the other Prosperity Gospel "Churches"? If a "church" is rich, there is a serious problem with that church. And if they have gold lined walls and cathedrals in that "church" who is that for? It certainly isn't for YeHoVah (God)! I say it would be great if these people would only wake up and actually tried to find out how much their church "gives back" instead of pocketing. And when they find out how much of their hard-earned money actually went to fund the pastor's $23,000 toilet (Joyce Meyer), they would have enough sense to leave THAT church and find one that actually does "God's Work"!

[Omegaman 3.0]

The "rich churches" in my post, are a quote from Hartono, the term was not mine, therefore not mine to define. How about we limit discussions about rich churches, tithing, etc. to the discussion forum, and here we either comment on the subject (the song) , or move on?

[MrBear]

I grew up in the Miami vice phil colins era

he was more social justice, exposing things wrong with politics songs like this one

land of confusion 

the Miami vice song in the air tonight

he had quite a few hits and his videos were thought provoking for sure ?

SHALOM❤️