The Light Posted January 8, 2022 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,090 Content Per Day: 1.11 Reputation: 202 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/17/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted January 8, 2022 15 hours ago, truth7t7 said: I disagree, a pre-trib rapture of the Church to heaven is found no place in scripture You can find it in John N. Darby's book on fables and fairy tales In Love, Jesus Is The Lord The SECRET PRETRIBULATION rapture is certainly found in scripture. Be happy to give you chapter and verse. Are you able to support the things you say and show in Revelation the chapter and verses where the church is raptured? So far you have been unable to support your argument. Answer questions, which questions? Why the fear? So far, your response is a pre-trib rapture of the Church to heaven is found no place in scripture, which is totally untrue. John Nelson Darby yada, yada, yada, which is totally untrue, and shows you have not done your RE Search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth7t7 Posted January 8, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,749 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 329 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/19/2011 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 8, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, The Light said: The SECRET PRETRIBULATION rapture is certainly found in scripture. Be happy to give you chapter and verse. Are you able to support the things you say and show in Revelation the chapter and verses where the church is raptured? So far you have been unable to support your argument. Answer questions, which questions? Why the fear? So far, your response is a pre-trib rapture of the Church to heaven is found no place in scripture, which is totally untrue. John Nelson Darby yada, yada, yada, which is totally untrue, and shows you have not done your RE Search. "I'm waiting" for your book, chapter, verses, showing a pre-trib rapture exist's in scripture? Edited January 8, 2022 by truth7t7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Light Posted January 8, 2022 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,090 Content Per Day: 1.11 Reputation: 202 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/17/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted January 8, 2022 On 1/7/2022 at 7:02 AM, tatwo said: The Light, Can you define "church" for me...so that I may understand your perspective more clearly? Tatwo...:) The Church is the group of people that are mentioned 19 times in the 1st three chapters of Revelation and then mysteriously are not mentioned again until Rev 22. The Church is the 1st bride, and the 1st harvest. The Jews have had their eyes blinded. Rom 11 10 Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway. 11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy. 12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness? The fig tree has TWO HARVESTS. When the fullness of the Gentiles comes in what will the Jews say? Jer 8 20 The harvest is past, the summer is ended, and we are not saved. It seems many are blind to what we have been told. The scripture is read, and it goes right over their head. Rom 11 25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. Jacob had two brides. Leah was the first bride and Rachel was the second and chosen bride. Jacob had to work 7 more years for his chosen bride. So, the Church is the 1st bride. And that bride will be in heaven before the 70th week of Daniel. That means that the 1st bride will be in heaven BEFORE the 7 seals are opened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Light Posted January 8, 2022 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,090 Content Per Day: 1.11 Reputation: 202 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/17/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted January 8, 2022 1 minute ago, truth7t7 said: I'm waiting for your book, chapter, verses, showing a pre-trib rapture exist's in scripture Brother is that clucking I hear. I am unable to comprehend your fear about showing where the Church is raptured in Revelation? I've asked you a simple question. Where in Revelation do you see the Church being raptured? All you respond with is the same untrue and unsupported nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth7t7 Posted January 8, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,749 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 329 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/19/2011 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 8, 2022 26 minutes ago, The Light said: Brother is that clucking I hear. I am unable to comprehend your fear about showing where the Church is raptured in Revelation? I've asked you a simple question. Where in Revelation do you see the Church being raptured? All you respond with is the same untrue and unsupported nonsense. As I have stated "Several Times" there isnt a pre-trib rapture found in any part of scripture, including Revelation "I'm waiting" for your book, chapter, verses, showing a pre-trib rapture exist's in scripture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tatwo Posted January 8, 2022 Group: Senior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 614 Content Per Day: 0.70 Reputation: 141 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/18/2021 Status: Offline Share Posted January 8, 2022 1 hour ago, The Light said: Where in Revelation do you see the Church being raptured? All you respond with is the same untrue and unsupported nonsense. Light, What's all the commotion concerning a "rapture?" Is the rapture or secret rapture where the Body of Christ is taken from the earth to heaven? Maybe, maybe not...ultimately it makes no difference. The mild hostility here between you and truth7t7 has taken the forum from the woman in the wilderness...to a rapture. Can either of you explain to me what the woman in the wilderness is connected to a rapture? Tatwo...:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth7t7 Posted January 8, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,749 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 329 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/19/2011 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 8, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, tatwo said: Light, What's all the commotion concerning a "rapture?" Is the rapture or secret rapture where the Body of Christ is taken from the earth to heaven? Maybe, maybe not...ultimately it makes no difference. The mild hostility here between you and truth7t7 has taken the forum from the woman in the wilderness...to a rapture. Can either of you explain to me what the woman in the wilderness is connected to a rapture? Tatwo...:) No hostility on my part whatsoever as you claim, if a person wanders from the topic that I posted, it dosen't bring harm or foul Feel free to post on the Woman, I will be more than happy to respond Jesus Is The Lord Edited January 8, 2022 by truth7t7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamlamad Posted January 8, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,272 Content Per Day: 2.07 Reputation: 689 Days Won: 4 Joined: 06/09/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted January 8, 2022 19 hours ago, truth7t7 said: I disagree, a pre-trib rapture of the Church to heaven is found no place in scripture You can find it in John N. Darby's book on fables and fairy tales In Love, Jesus Is The Lord What does John's vision of the constellation Virgo have to do with the rapture? The timing of chapter 12 is the midpoint of the 70th week. Oh, just so you know, Paul wrote it long before Darby wrote it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamlamad Posted January 8, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,272 Content Per Day: 2.07 Reputation: 689 Days Won: 4 Joined: 06/09/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted January 8, 2022 3 hours ago, truth7t7 said: "I'm waiting" for your book, chapter, verses, showing a pre-trib rapture exist's in scripture? "The trib" starts at the 7th seal and goes to the 7th vial. The raptured church was seen in heaven in chapter 7, before the "trib." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth7t7 Posted January 8, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,749 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 329 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/19/2011 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, iamlamad said: What does John's vision of the constellation Virgo have to do with the rapture? The timing of chapter 12 is the midpoint of the 70th week. Oh, just so you know, Paul wrote it long before Darby wrote it. I disagree, you will closely not no scripture verses were provided to support your claim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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