THE TRUTH

[Reinitin]

John 1

1 

In the beginning was the Word,[a]
and the Word was with God,
and the Word was God.
2 He was with God in the beginning.
3 All things were created through Him,
and apart from Him not one thing was created
that has been created.
4 Life was in Him,
and that life was the light of men.
5 That light shines in the darkness,
yet the darkness did not overcome[c] it.

6 There was a man named John
who was sent from God.
7 He came as a witness
to testify about the light,
so that all might believe through him.[d]
8 He was not the light,
but he came to testify about the light.
9 The true light, who gives light to everyone,
was coming into the world.[e]

10 He was in the world,
and the world was created through Him,
yet the world did not recognize Him.
11 He came to His own,[f]
and His own people[g] did not receive Him.
12 But to all who did receive Him,
He gave them the right to be[h] children of God,
to those who believe in His name,
13 who were born,
not of blood,
or of the will of the flesh,
or of the will of man,[j]
but of God.

14 The Word became flesh[k]
and took up residence[l] among us.
We observed His glory,
the glory as the One and Only Son[m] from the Father,
full of grace and truth.
15 (John testified concerning Him and exclaimed,
“This was the One of whom I said,
‘The One coming after me has surpassed me,
because He existed before me.’”)
16 Indeed, we have all received grace after grace
from His fullness,
17 for the law was given through Moses,
grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.
18 No one has ever seen God.[n]
The One and Only Son[o]—
the One who is at the Father’s side[p]—
He has revealed Him.

[BibleGuy]

Yes!  And the Torah of Moses is the Word of God.

Therefore, Yeshua (Jesus) is the Torah-made-flesh Who came to dwell among us!

Thus, it makes no sense to suppose Jesus abolishes/cancels Torah....He can't cancel Himself!

Torah is truth (Ps. 119:142).  We should love and obey this truth (1Jn.3:18)....not pretend it is permanently abolished!

Blessings in your search for truth!

 

 

[branchesofHim]

Matthew 22:[35] Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying,
[36] Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
[37] Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
[38] This is the first and great commandment.
[39] And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
[40] On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Galatians 5:[14] For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

[BibleGuy]

5 hours ago, branchesofHim said:

Matthew 22:[35] Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying,
[36] Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
[37] Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
[38] This is the first and great commandment.
[39] And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
[40] On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Galatians 5:[14] For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Right!  Love fulfills the Torah.

 

Why?  Because if you choose to love, then you choose to obey all the rest of Torah too.

 

(sorry guys, no more pork!)

 

Love FULFILLS (not replaces/terminates/cancels) Torah.

That's why we obey God's commands (PLURAL, 1Jn.5:3;1Cor.7:19), not merely Lev. 19:18.

 

After all, Jesus' teachings DO actually apply to us: Mt.5:19;23:23

 

Blessings...

 

 

[WilliamL]

On 5/15/2022 at 10:27 AM, BibleGuy said:

Why?  Because if you choose to love, then you choose to obey all the rest of Torah too.

Galatians 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under a curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one who continueth not in all things that are written in the book of the law, to do them.

[chesed]

And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.
(Rom 5:5)

I think 'are we alive to His Spirit' is the issue

 

[S33k3r]

On 6/3/2022 at 4:52 PM, WilliamL said:

Galatians 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under a curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one who continueth not in all things that are written in the book of the law, to do them.

There is more than one Law in the Bible.

The 10 Commandments are God's Law. They were spoken aloud by Him on Mt. Sinai. They were written with HIS finger in stone, ... twice. They were taught, and obeyed, by Jesus Christ upon the earth. There is no mention anywhere of Christ obeying any of the extensive 613 Laws of the Jews. On the contrary, Jesus ridicules them.

One set of Laws is said to be against mankind.

One set of Laws is said to be perfect and to liberate mankind.

One Law is based on sacrificial ordinances.

One Law defines just how to love God and love our neighbor.

One was placed inside the Ark of the Covenant.

One was placed on the outside of the Ark.

One Law was done away with at the Cross.

One Law was not.

There are TWO Laws in the Bible. 

Jesus upheld God's Law, the 10 Commandments, and, as Christians, we are to do as He did and obey what He obeyed.

1 John 2:6

Edited December 7, 2022 by S33k3r

[WilliamL]

On 12/7/2022 at 10:38 AM, S33k3r said:

There is more than one Law in the Bible.

The 10 Commandments are God's Law. They were spoken aloud by Him on Mt. Sinai. They were written with HIS finger in stone, ... twice. They were taught, and obeyed, by Jesus Christ upon the earth. There is no mention anywhere of Christ obeying any of the extensive 613 Laws of the Jews.

True, there is God's directly-spoken law, and there is the law given by means of the mediator Moses.

Jesus did seem to follow that latter ceremonial law, at least in respect to observing the feast days.

On 12/7/2022 at 10:38 AM, S33k3r said:

Jesus upheld God's Law, the 10 Commandments, and, as Christians, we are to do as He did and obey what He obeyed.

Agreed.