False teachers

[Thornbird]

3 hours ago, Michael37 said:

The things they focus on are

Parables are not literal.

[missmuffet]

1 hour ago, Heleadethme said:

That's the thing sister...nobody can be trusted.  Anyone and everyone can be and often are, subject to error and mistakes because we're all human, as well as being at difference places in our walk.   Our trust and reliance needs to be in the Lord alone.  That's why it says to test everything...test all things.  Of course the Lord can and does  speak to us and teach us through others, but the tendency of our flesh is to start slacking off in our own alertness and diligence and just let someone else do all the heavy lifting just because they have been right about some things and we learned from them at some point.

I think of it like growing up as children.  When we're very young it doesn't enter into our mind that our parents could be wrong about anything.  But as we grow and mature, we start to realize that they have faults and can be mistaken about things.  And then as 'adults' we should be able to start carrying our own load as well as helping our parents.

There are Bible teachers I trust and those I do not trust to teach God's Word. There are not many I trust but there are a few that I have studied with that are very good and can be trusted with the words in the Bible 

[Thornbird]

12 hours ago, B-B said:

I agree

...I'm afraid I think it is rather dangerous to rely on  self-interpretation of Scripture. I don't know if you are a teacher @debrakaybut I'm hoping this is not something you teach others? 

Interestingly in this forum and others like it, that's precisely what occurs. Personal interpretation of the scriptures.

Largely because actual scholars don't tend to join. 

 

[Alive]

25 minutes ago, Thornbird said:

Interestingly in this forum and others like it, that's precisely what occurs. Personal interpretation of the scriptures.

Largely because actual scholars don't tend to join. 

 

‘Scholars’ are as prepared to teach as those ‘teaching’ scholars are prepared.

The body needs the body operating under the head.

That is where we find health.

 

[Thornbird]

3 minutes ago, Alive said:

‘Scholars’ are as prepared to teach as those ‘teaching’ scholars are prepared.

The body needs the body operating under the head.

That is where we find health.

 

Yes, however that has nothing to do with my observation that for the most part bible scholars don't join Christian discussion forums.

And Lord knows bible scholars, including their teachers, are diverse in their understanding. They don't arrive at a universal accord on all fields of study.

[Alive]

Just now, Thornbird said:

Yes, however that has nothing to do with my observation that for the most part bible scholars don't join Christian discussion forums.

And Lord knows bible scholars, including their teachers, are diverse in their understanding. They don't arrive at a universal accord on all fields of study.

Yup..I was adding to the thinking. We need to recognize that there are appointed teachers, and we all need to be willing and even anxious to listen…but this in the context of a many membered body under the Head. If and when we all or a local expression, recognize this corporately, we are better off. Looking unto Him….

[Michael37]

2 hours ago, Thornbird said:

Parables are not literal.

The things they focus on are.

[Thornbird]

9 minutes ago, Michael37 said:

The things they focus on are.

Parables are not literal. 

[Thornbird]

28 minutes ago, Alive said:

Yup..I was adding to the thinking. We need to recognize that there are appointed teachers, and we all need to be willing and even anxious to listen…but this in the context of a many membered body under the Head. If and when we all or a local expression, recognize this corporately, we are better off. Looking unto Him….

And yet there is not a universal accord in the corporation.

As evidenced by the numerous denominations and their respective, diverse, doctrines.

Just as with parables. Designed to obscure truths, none the less there is not a universal corporate accord as to their meaning. 

Example: Luke 16. 

It is not the literal bosom of Abraham being described in the chapter. 

However, some readers believe the parable refers to paradise. Others believe it refers to heaven.

[Alive]

2 minutes ago, Thornbird said:

And yet there is not a universal accord in the corporation.

As evidenced by the numerous denominations and their respective, diverse, doctrines.

Just as with parables. Designed to obscure truths, none the less there is not a universal corporate accord as to their meaning. 

Example: Luke 16. 

It is not the literal bosom of Abraham being described in the chapter. 

However, some readers believe the parable refers to paradise. Others believe it refers to heaven.

Of course. This is inevitable. I do not have time to get into this now. Perhaps tomorrow. The gist is…Christ is faithful to provide what we need, even when there is error present.