Revelation Chapter 13 -

[BlindSeeker]

In Daniel, the beasts are representative of nations-kingdoms.

Why should the rules change in Revelation?

Hey there Sister Nebula,

Is this question directed at me?

[Stephen1]

"In Daniel, the beasts are representative of nations-kingdoms.

Why should the rules change in Revelation?"

>They don't .... Daniel and Revelation are totally compatible and uniquely parallel

>The kingdoms, associated king positions, and "heads" of the beast are all the same

Edited December 4, 2009 by Stephen1

[nebula]

In Daniel, the beasts are representative of nations-kingdoms.

Why should the rules change in Revelation?

Hey there Sister Nebula,

Is this question directed at me?

You can answer if you would like, but I was thinking of Stephen's claim that the beasts are demons.

[nebula]

"In Daniel, the beasts are representative of nations-kingdoms.

Why should the rules change in Revelation?"

>They don't .... Daniel and Revelation are totally compatible and uniquely parallel

>The kingdoms, associated king positions, and "heads" of the beast are all the same

So why are you calling them demons?

[Stephen1]

"So why are you calling them demons?"

>The term in question is "beast"

>The symbolic animal beasts in Daniel represent successive human kingdoms [Daniel 7]

>The term used in Revelation identifies fallen angelic entities [Revelation 9:11; 11:7; 18:8]

>The first beast's "heads" are 7 kingdoms and associated human king positions that he rules over for satan [the dragon]

Edited December 4, 2009 by Stephen1

[nebula]

I'm not following

[Stephen1]

"I'm not following"

>I would suggest studying my post "Daniel's 4 Beasts"

>If you need further help ask, and I will attempt to give you more information

>I will be posting much more material on the forum as time goes on and this particulat subject will be addressed in diffrerent ways to get the full and complete rendering of the associated scriptures

>It would also help if you would ask specific question, or related questions so that I can give you the best answer

Edited December 4, 2009 by Stephen1

[Believer1997]

I'm not following

You are not the only one....

[Massorite]

Ive heard 2 ideas on this. One will be that he will be the leader of the EU. The other I have heard is that the beast will come back disguised as Pope John Paul 2.

Then counting this one . . . if you read it, make's 3

Exactly! Ideas alone, and speculation. Is that a good thing? I would venture to say no?

That's the problem. Speculation based on the incorrect assumption that the book is primarily about future events. It isn't. It's primarily about PAST events, specifically the punishment of Jerusalem double for her sins and the destruction of the Temple and the ushering in of the Meesianic Age.

Revelation 4:1

After these things I looked, and behold, a door standing open in heaven. And the first voice which I heard was like a trumpet speaking with me, saying,

[Massorite]

AC was either confused, or attempting to deceive

The temple in Revelation 11:1 is the Lord's temple in heaven just as all of Revelation's references to the temple

The court on the earth is the top of the temple mount ..... the court "without" the Lord's temple which was destroyed long ago

It is the temple mount on the earth that will be controlled [overrun and occupied] by the beast and his followers for 42 months during the last 1260 days of the 70th week decreed for Israel

Now we have your opinion as well as Adam Clarke's . . . and . . . maybe you are the one attempting to deceive

No deception going on with Stephen1 because Stephen1 did his research and some how he recieved some of that insight which is there for all to tap into.

Stephen1 your opinion is 100% biblical which means that your opinion is not an opinion at all. But rather a scriptural fact that is based on scripture. Holy Moly can you imagine that.