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17 minutes ago, Starise said:

proctologists

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I'll have to come back to this one.

I'm a little behind.

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1 hour ago, Starise said:

I'll have to come back to this one.

I'm a little behind.

Sigh... :sneaking:


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On 3/2/2022 at 10:22 PM, Daniel Marsh said:

None of those texts apply to the topic at all brother, freind.

 

Judges 2:16
Then the Lord chose leaders called judges. These leaders saved the Israelites from the enemies who took their possessions.

In Deuteronomy 16:18-20, Moses instructs the people of Israel to appoint judges

Romans 13 supports Police

"God is a God of justice (Deuteronomy 32:4) and He instructs His people to pursue justice (Deuteronomy 16:20). "Give justice to the weak and the fatherless; maintain the right of the afflicted and the destitute. Rescue the weak and the needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked" (Psalm 82:3–4)."

https://www.compellingtruth.org/Christian-law-enforcement.html

New Testament
Matthew 8:5-13; Luke 7:1-10 - Roman officer of Capernaum: Jesus healed servant
Matthew 27:54; Luke 23:47 - Roman officer at the cross
Matthew 27:65 - Police at tomb
Mark 15:16 - Military police from the palace
Luke 3:14 - Honest police
Luke 22:52 - Temple police
John 7:45 - Temple police
John 18:12 - Military police
Acts 4:1 - Military police over the Temple (captain of the guard)
Acts 9:2 - Saul: special deputy
Acts 10 - Cornelius: chief of police
Acts 16:22-30 - Jailer (corrections officer): asks the most important question in the Bible
Acts 16:35 - Court officers
Acts 17:9 - Bonding practice
Acts 17:31 - Jesus as the Supreme Judge
Acts 21:31-32 - Riot police, military police
Acts 24:1 - Tertullus: lawyer (bought and paid for)
Acts 24:22 - Claudius Lysias: police commander in charge of Jerusalem
Acts 25:3 - Festus: in charge of the police, both civilian and military
Acts 27:1-3 - Julius: captain of the imperial regiment
Acts 28:16 - Paul's house arrest
Romans 13:1-5 - Where law enforcement gets its authority
2 Corinthians 10:4 - Heavenly weapons available to Christian police
Ephesians 6:10-20 - Protective gear
Philippians 1:12 - Corrections officer guarding Paul, palace police
Philippians 4:21 - Palace personnel, palace police among them

https://www.fcpo.org/114.30/law-enforcement-in-the-scriptures

 

Romans 13:4 - For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

 

 

 

 

yes we need law enforcement, but christians are not called to use the carnal sword or enforce ungodly carnal worldly laws .2Cor 10:3-6. Christian are vessel unto honour purged from sin and meat for the master use . We are not to be vessel of wrath / ministers of wrath .

Our job is to preach the gospel, we have the ministry of reconciliation .

For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh:

(For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;)

Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.

But [we are different, because] our citizenship is in heaven. And from there we eagerly await [the coming of] the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ;

No soldier in active service gets entangled in the [ordinary business] affairs of civilian life; [he avoids them] so that he may please the one who enlisted him to serve.

 

 

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On 3/2/2022 at 10:22 PM, Daniel Marsh said:

None of those texts apply to the topic at all brother, freind.

 

Judges 2:16
Then the Lord chose leaders called judges. These leaders saved the Israelites from the enemies who took their possessions.

In Deuteronomy 16:18-20, Moses instructs the people of Israel to appoint judges

Romans 13 supports Police

"God is a God of justice (Deuteronomy 32:4) and He instructs His people to pursue justice (Deuteronomy 16:20). "Give justice to the weak and the fatherless; maintain the right of the afflicted and the destitute. Rescue the weak and the needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked" (Psalm 82:3–4)."

https://www.compellingtruth.org/Christian-law-enforcement.html

New Testament
Matthew 8:5-13; Luke 7:1-10 - Roman officer of Capernaum: Jesus healed servant
Matthew 27:54; Luke 23:47 - Roman officer at the cross
Matthew 27:65 - Police at tomb
Mark 15:16 - Military police from the palace
Luke 3:14 - Honest police
Luke 22:52 - Temple police
John 7:45 - Temple police
John 18:12 - Military police
Acts 4:1 - Military police over the Temple (captain of the guard)
Acts 9:2 - Saul: special deputy
Acts 10 - Cornelius: chief of police
Acts 16:22-30 - Jailer (corrections officer): asks the most important question in the Bible
Acts 16:35 - Court officers
Acts 17:9 - Bonding practice
Acts 17:31 - Jesus as the Supreme Judge
Acts 21:31-32 - Riot police, military police
Acts 24:1 - Tertullus: lawyer (bought and paid for)
Acts 24:22 - Claudius Lysias: police commander in charge of Jerusalem
Acts 25:3 - Festus: in charge of the police, both civilian and military
Acts 27:1-3 - Julius: captain of the imperial regiment
Acts 28:16 - Paul's house arrest
Romans 13:1-5 - Where law enforcement gets its authority
2 Corinthians 10:4 - Heavenly weapons available to Christian police
Ephesians 6:10-20 - Protective gear
Philippians 1:12 - Corrections officer guarding Paul, palace police
Philippians 4:21 - Palace personnel, palace police among them

https://www.fcpo.org/114.30/law-enforcement-in-the-scriptures

 

Romans 13:4 - For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

 

 

 

 

christian must not be vessel of wrath

Isaiah 52:7
How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth!


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On 3/2/2022 at 8:32 PM, OneLight said:

When he first came back after being absent for a few years, I ask him why he does not reply.  I never received an answer so I know his focus was on his message and not any form of a discussion.  Now and then you will see a reply, but that is rare.

I can remember a time when teaching was only allowed by those in ministry, which still allowed for other views to be presented and discussed, but it seems anyone with bad theologies , and who fancies themselves a teacher, can come and spew their theology as much as they want.  When George first allowed such threads it was with the idea that those who posted bad theology would be corrected by those with good theology, but all this has allowed is more arguments and hardening of hearts because not only do you use scripture to disprove their ideas, but by doing so, you hurt their pride and the walls go up and the arrows start to fly.  Time to rethink how this should be handled.

I personally put  him on ignore.

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