The alive and remaining are changed - doesn't that mean all the rest died?

[George]

3 minutes ago, Omegaman 3.0 said:

It is also interesting to note, that Jesus was not a law keeper regarding the Pharisaical understanding of the sabbath. As Lord of the sabbath, His understanding is the final word.

True, but that did not mean He didn't observe it.  He came to show that true rest is not in a day, but in the Lord of Shabbat.  Again, an illustration of His reign... Where the earth is ONLY at rest when He is reigning and has put his enemies under his feet!  The last day!

[Alive]

6 minutes ago, angels4u said:

What do you think Michael , can this number mean  that a new day is soon coming? ( Millenial)

We can reasonably conclude that 8 is a day that transcends the Seven Even considering the True Rest of the 7th. What follows entering His rest we have entered in Christ is the eternity that follows.

The 8th may refer to all the follows….a new day. A forever day, In Christ.

Edited March 30, 2022 by Alive

[DeighAnn]

30 minutes ago, Alive said:

Of course He doesn’t. We only have to be careful how we build a theological contruct (template) around which we interpret scripture dogmatically.

C’mon, brother. I have heard and read and studied this stuff outside a vacuum for almost as long as you have lived.

My conclusion is: leave current events and prognostications in the rear view mirror and preach the Gospel. Love your neighbor.

Consider just how much skin in the game is invested.

Take a couple years off and consider before our Lord where the emphasis ought to be. I trust the result will be profitable, not in earthly treasure, but treasure in heaven.

The truth is, I am concerned you will wake up one day in 20 years, and wonder before the Lord why you wasted so much time on this current events end time diversion…..look away from unto Him.

Being about His business. I know this may appear harsh, but it needs to be expressed. We all need it.

Are you forgetting the MANY membered body? 

YOU KNOW WHAT YOU NEVER SEE? 

THOSE who are CALLED BY GOD TO be doing THIS, jumping into the POSTS those who are called by God to head in other directions and telling them what they are doing is useless to us.  WHY IS THAT? We don't go around judging another mans servant, even though the rest of the servants do us.  
 

Ephesians 4:7 But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.

Ephesians 4:8 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.

Ephesians 4:9 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?

Ephesians 4:10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)

Ephesians 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers

Ephesians 4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:

Ephesians 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

Ephesians 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;

Ephesians 4:15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:

Ephesians 4:16 From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.

Ephesians 4:17 This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind,

Ephesians 4:18 Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:

Ephesians 4:19 Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness.

Ephesians 4:20 But ye have not so learned Christ;

Where do you believe SATAN works the hardest TO CONFUSE? 

THE TIME HE WILL BE HERE.  Should we allow the synagogue of Satan to put forth the false doctrine and do nothing and join with THE BODY parts HE has CALLED TO EVANGELIZE?

DECEPTION IS COMING AND IF NOT WARNED, it is on US who are called to do this not those who aren't.  THEIR blood will be on our hands.  

It isn't fun to fight in every direction constantly.  Feelings get hurt all the time.  How many hours have I spent in prayer begging the FATHER to keep me from teaching anything that is not His truth?  How many years of isolation did it take until I came to understanding?  MANY.  Many.  With many more to go. 

 

Ephesians 6:10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.

Ephesians 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.


Like I said, this area of study is an area Satan is all over.  It isn't about teaching truth anymore than it is about UNTEACHING  his lies.  


Ephesians 6:13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

Ephesians 6:14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;

Ephesians 6:15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

Ephesians 6:16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

Ephesians 6:17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

Ephesians 6:18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;

Ephesians 6:19 And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel,

 

[Michael37]

2 minutes ago, angels4u said:

What do you think Michael , can this number mean  that a new day is soon coming? ( Millenial)

In Biblical Numerology it does.

The Bible teaches us to regard the return of Christ as imminent but not even angels know the exact time.

Readiness at Any Hour: Mark 13:32-37.
(Matthew 24:36–51; Luke 12:35–48)

32No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. 33Be on your guard and stay alert!g For you do not know when the appointed time will come.

34It is like a man going on a journey who left his house, put each servant in charge of his own task, and instructed the doorkeeper to keep watch. 35Therefore keep watch, because you do not know when the master of the house will return—whether in the evening, at midnight, when the rooster crows, or in the morning. 36Otherwise, he may arrive without notice and find you sleeping. 37And what I say to you, I say to everyone: Keep watch!” [Berean Study Bible]

[Michael37]

4 minutes ago, Alive said:

We can reasonably conclude that 8 is a day that transcends the Seven Even considering the True Rest of the 7th. What follows entering His rest we have entered in Christ is the eternity that follows.

The 8th may refer to all the follows….a new day. A forever day, In Christ.

Hallelujah. The symbol of eternity is similar to 8, albeit on its side.

[Alive]

True revival cannot happen as a result of looking at current events and eschatology, but rather (first understanding the foolishness of reviving what is always alive in Christ) is the scriptural admonitions regarding growing in Christ and maturation as we are progressively sanctified as He takes territory in our lives. This is both indivual and resultingly corporate.

This is an inevitability according tomthe power that works in us….Christ, the Hope and Assurance of His Eternal Porpose.

Edited March 30, 2022 by Alive

[George]

Just now, Alive said:

True revival cannot happen as a result of looking at current events and eschatology, but rather (first understanding the foolishness of reviving what is allows alive in Christ) is the scriptural admonitions regarding growing in Christ and maturation as we are progressively sanctified as He takes territory in our lives. This is both indivual and resultingly corporate.

Show me a revival in the history whereby it was a result of preterists, partial-preterists, etc.

Every single revival from the Moravian Revival ... to the Wesleyan revivals (an outgrowth of the Moravian revival) ... to the revivals of Moody, Finney, and Torrey ... to the revivals of the Jesus movement ... NONE of them were preterists!  

The reality is that the move of God will take place WHEN PEOPLE REALIZE IT'S HAPPENING AS THE BIBLE FORETOLD!

There is not a single SIGN that is NOT in motion today!   This could not be said 75 years ago!  ... when you see ALL of these things ... is the KEY to understanding!

[George]

@Josheb Why don't you simply ANSWER the questions asked of you ... before asking more questions! 

[DeighAnn]

22 minutes ago, Josheb said:

The LORD will stretch forth Your strong scepter from Zion, saying, "Rule in the midst of Your enemies."  Your people will volunteer freely in the day of Your power; In holy array, from the womb of the dawn, Your youth are to You as the dew.  The LORD has sworn and will not change His mind, "You are a priest forever According to the order of Melchizedek."

Psalm 110:1 The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

UNTIL 

AND THEN

to make sure we both acknowledge the progression 




HERE WE ARE ON EARTH
Psalm 110:2 The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies.

Psalm 110:3 Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth.

Psalm 110:4 The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.

Psalm 110:5 The Lord at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath.

Psalm 110:6 He shall judge among the heathen, he shall fill the places with the dead bodies; he shall wound the heads over many countries.

Psalm 110:7 He shall drink of the brook in the way: therefore shall he lift up the head.


 

1 Corinthians 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's AT HIS COMING 

AT CHRISTS COMING?  WHERE IS HE COMING TO?  WHERE WAS HE?

 

1 Corinthians 15:24 Then cometh the end,

NOT AN END IN HEAVEN BUT THE END OF THE LORDS DAY

when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

HE IS ON HIS THRONE ON EARTH

1 Corinthians 15:25 For He must reign, TILL HE HATH PUT ALL ENEMIES UNDER HIS FEET  

1 Corinthians 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

WE KNOW THAT ISN'T IN HEAVEN
 

1 Corinthians 15:27 For He hath put all things under his feet. But when He saith all things are put under Him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.

1 Corinthians 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

 

[DeighAnn]

36 minutes ago, Josheb said:

I did not say they were not first Old Testament Jews. I said they were not Old Testament Jews when they wrote the New Testament. By the time they wrote what we now call the New Testament they were all converts to Christ. 

 

I HAVE NO IDEA if there has ever been a CHRISTIAN who thought the OLD TESTAMENT JEWS wrote the New Testament.  Are you sure that is what you WROTE?

Because this is what I responded to

"No Christian in the New Testament was an "Old Testament Jew." No one. They were all new covenant Jews or new covenant converts to Christ from among the Gentiles (Luke may not have been Jewish). The New Testament states quite plainly the Old was veiled and not fully understood, even though all its Christ-relevant content is there to be seen as such."