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[one.opinion]

1 hour ago, Starise said:

The vaccine is now affecting pregnant women-I don't know if you can read this because I pay for the Epoch Times, but here's the link to that story.

The Epoch Times story did report something that concerned me, as well. There was NOT enough study done in pregnant animal models prior to vaccine rollout. The rest of the article raises points that need to be criticized. Yes, there were adverse outcomes among pregnant women. However, the extremely critical comparison to adverse events in non-immunized women was completely lacking. Scientific studies need proper controls. It is impossible to gather meaning from "X individuals displayed effect Y" when a control group is absent. I do not know if this was intentional or unintentional on the part of the Epoch Times, but it is a fundamental error.

Here is some proper analysis of adverse events during pregnancy comparing women with at least one vaccine dose and unvaccinated women published in February of this year:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002937821008735

Conclusion:

Of pregnant women eligible for COVID-19 vaccination, less than one-third accepted COVID-19 vaccination during pregnancy, and they experienced similar pregnancy outcomes with unvaccinated pregnant women. There was lower uptake among younger women, non-White ethnicity, and lower socioeconomic background. This study has contributed to the body of evidence that having COVID-19 vaccination in pregnancy does not alter perinatal outcomes. Clear communication to improve awareness among pregnant women and healthcare professionals on vaccine safety is needed, alongside strategies to address vaccine hesitancy. These strategies include postvaccination surveillance to gather further data on pregnancy outcomes, particularly after first-trimester vaccination, and long-term infant follow-up.

Here is why low vaccination rates are a big deal. The risk of hospitalization in pregnant women was reduced by 89% in double-vaccinated women compared to unvaccinated women.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01490-8

With the relatively low amount of scrutiny regarding effects on pregnant women, we may have dodged a bit of a bullet. But this is what we see from the properly gathered and analyzed evidence - the rates of adverse events are comparable between vaccinated and unvaccinated women, but vaccinated women have an 89% reduction in the risk of hospitalization.

[missmuffet]

Do you think the Covid vaccine can weaken your immunity?

Edited May 20, 2022 by missmuffet

[just_abc]

On 4/27/2022 at 10:50 AM, one.opinion said:

In my experience, people that are concerned about “the” COVID vaccine generally mean either Pfizer or Moderna. 

Thanks very much for explaining.  

To me I think it is sometimes a bit puzzling to see in so many threads on worthy.. discussions where Covid vaccines are sometimes being refered to almost like it is simply just one vaccine perhaps (ie singular?)..  when there are actually many different Covid vaccines.. and even different types of Covid vaccines.. that are being used around the world.. including 'traditional' type vaccine/s..

(i.e  It is not just the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines that exist for Covid..     It is also not even just mRNA vaccines that exist for Covid.. )

 

So thanks very much for explaining.

(and my apologies for my very late reply to your post!   )

 

[Marathoner]

I was vaccinated with the Pfizer formulation and I haven't experienced any adverse conditions as a result of that. I continue to test negative for COVID like I always have since this started (and prior to vaccination). As I've written before, this is also the case for my sister. 

The same hasn't been true of my colleagues here at the shelter. We've had three rounds of COVID and vaccination hasn't stopped those who were sick prior to being jabbed from being infected again. Three rounds of COVID, the same people sick again and again. 

[just_abc]

3 hours ago, missmuffet said:

Do you think the Covid vaccine can weaken your immunity?

hi....  If I may ask.. which Covid vaccine are you refering to?  Are you are refering to the Pfizer vaccine?

I don't *think* it weakens immunity? 

(Vaccines in general are meant to trigger immune response to something?)

Just some thoughts.  Thanks.  

Edited May 21, 2022 by just_abc