Interesting passage gives insights into Predestination and Foreknowledge

[Anne2]

On 4/20/2022 at 2:46 PM, George said:

I believe it's as God says it in Romans ...

Rom 8:28  And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose. 

Rom 8:29  For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. 

Rom 8:30  And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified.

While this passage is true ... remember that the CALLED is to everyone ...

1 Ti 2:4  who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. 

2Pe 3:9  The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance.

So while the predestination may be known by God ... how we get there is a matter of free will ... and this does not conflict with His desired will that all come to faith!

How does this work?

21  Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works, which were done in you, had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes.
22  But I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the day of judgment, than for you.
23  And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works, which have been done in thee, had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day.
 

[George]

4 minutes ago, Anne2 said:

How does this work?

21  Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works, which were done in you, had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes.
22  But I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the day of judgment, than for you.
23  And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works, which have been done in thee, had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day.

How does what work?  Basically, those towns saw the miracles ... and yet, didn't believe.

[JohnR7]

12 minutes ago, angels4u said:

This is a prophecy that is yet to come in the last seven years of this age, also known as the 70th week of Daniel. 

That is the thing about this asteroid. It is as if it goes over Jerusalem on Friday the 13 2000 years after Jesus died at calvary. Then exactly 7 years later on resurrection sunday the asteroid goes over Jerusalem again to mark when Jesus was resurrected. 

I do not know for sure if all the dates actually line up like that, but they are pretty close. In the year 2029 passover begins on March 30. Not April 13. In 2036 passover does begin on friday April 11 and that does mean the comet on April 13 will be on resurrection sunday. 

https://earthsky.org/space/asteroid-99942-apophis-encounters-2029-2036-2068/

[Anne2]

8 minutes ago, George said:

How does what work? [/quote] Is there no predestination? Like with Nineveh?

Basically, those towns saw the miracles ... and yet, didn't believe.[/quote]

Yes, so did God predestine them?

 

 

[George]

2 minutes ago, JohnR7 said:

That is the thing about this asteroid. It is as if it goes over Jerusalem on Friday the 13 2000 years after Jesus died at calvary. Then exactly 7 years later on resurrection sunday the asteroid goes over Jerusalem again to mark when Jesus was resurrected. 

I do not know for sure if all the dates actually line up like that, but they are pretty close. In the year 2029 passover begins on March 30. Not April 13. In 2036 passover does begin on friday April 11 and that does mean the comet on April 13 will be on resurrection sunday. 

https://earthsky.org/space/asteroid-99942-apophis-encounters-2029-2036-2068/

Interesting!

[George]

@Anne2  They were not "predestined" to reject him if that's what you are asking.

[Anne2]

13 minutes ago, George said:

Basically, those towns saw the miracles ... and yet, didn't believe.

Yes, but if God had chosen to do miracles in the others they would have remained.

[Anne2]

Just now, George said:

@Anne2  They were not "predestined" to reject him if that's what you are asking.

What I am asking about is the works done. God chose to do those works. Some ancient cities would have repented long ago ago, If God had done those works among them. Didn't God choose to not do them?

[George]

Just now, Anne2 said:

Didn't God choose to not do them?

Jesus wasn't born then. 

[Anne2]

2 minutes ago, George said:

Jesus wasn't born then. 

God has been doing mighty works before Jesus. The whale swallowing up Noah, then spewing him out was such a one to the men of Nineveh.